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To: PanzerKardinal

St Matthews-in-the-City is a beautiful, old-style landmark church. I often Patrol that part of town at night.

In part, it caters to an “alternative” sort of parishioner, as well as your “Typical Anglican”. They also hold classical music concerts there because the acoustics are lovely. My wife and I attended “The Marriage of Figaro” there about 10 years ago — unforgettable.

It’s easy to bag this particular church because they *do* push the corner of the envelope quite hard, particularly on issues of social justice. This billboard is in really poor taste. But amongst their catchment are people who *really do* need Christianizing, and St Matthew’s does that, where other churches don’t. So I won’t criticize them for doing that.

The sort of people who would find this billboard Hell-Funny are the sorts of people who would attend service at St Matthew’s — and arguably would be the sort of people who need church the most. Mission accomplished? End-justifies-the-means? Dunno. But there is some logic to it.

Here is a link to their site: http://www.stmatthews.org.nz/index.php


4 posted on 12/16/2009 7:52:37 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
What's the point of such’ Christianizing?’ It's all pretense.
8 posted on 12/16/2009 7:56:43 AM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

That is not a church, its an anti-Christian faux church if it does stuff like that. Those are definitely not Christians.


10 posted on 12/16/2009 7:57:50 AM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Actually, church isn’t for non-believers, it is for believers to worship and hear the Word of God. If non-believers attend and are drawn to God, that’s great. But churches should not “cater” to seekers, especially by diminishing and mocking God’s Word.

“Progressive” = liberal, emerging church, New-Age, unbiblical muckety-muck. Makes me want to puke.


14 posted on 12/16/2009 8:06:34 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I'm familiar with St. Matthew-in-the-City.

If I'm not mistaken, it also serves as host to the "Auckland Community Church", aka, the home of the Gay, Lesbian and Transgendered Community, no? It's a "whatever floats your boat" type church.

I've never been convinced that they're actually "Christianizing" anybody. They definitely bring certain people through the doors who would not otherwise come to Church but so do Joel Osteen and Benny Hinn. I think the bar needs to be raised a little higher than simply putting butts on pews, though.

Years ago ('60s, '70s), St. Matthew-in-the-City was a mainstream Anglican Church. Traditional, sober and unremarkable. Then numbers started to dwindle and attendance fell off. It was at this time that they started to experiment and push the envelope to bring in the punters, so to speak.

They may have succeeded but at what price?

39 posted on 12/16/2009 8:36:54 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Kid I was brought up in a Christian home in New Zealand...

We attended an Anglican Church...

This blasphemeous gimmick is not Christian...

and its not Anglican...

Try again...


50 posted on 12/16/2009 8:51:09 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: DieHard the Hunter

At the time of Christ’s birth it was a Jewish practice for a young pregnant woman to be married to a much older man in order to protect her. It is thought that Joseph was just such a man, possibly even one who had already been married and had children.


186 posted on 12/17/2009 4:06:30 AM PST by kitkat
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To: narses; xsmommy; hobbes1; tioga; Gabz; secret garden; DieHard the Hunter

No.

Fundamentally (and isn’t it “odd” that we DO have to use that very word?) all “Christians” MUST think exactly alike in matters of “Faith” and “Morals” - Unlike and exactly opposite to what this crude heathen/devil says” his lies claiming that it is “boring” if all Christians thought alike.

YES! We must all think alike. Or (like him) we can join him in Hell with the people/person he really appears to worship.


275 posted on 12/17/2009 2:14:40 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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