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To: bogusname
The article contains a number of points showing what an unusual burial this was. Organic remains are usually not preserved in the humid ground of Jerusalem, there was no secondary burial, this is the earliest known case of leprosy. So, this is quite a singular find, eh?

And in conclusion: the weave of the cloth here is not like the weave of the cloth in Turin, therefore the Turin Shroud is a fake.

Huh? How did we get there?

2 posted on 12/17/2009 5:03:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Macbeth is ripe for shaking, and the powers above put on their instruments.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

... cause, you know... lepers always got buried in the finest cloths available.

Let’s not forget that Joseph of Arimathea likely provided the shroud. Joseph was from the Sanhedrin. He probably got a burial shroud like the Sanhedrin would have used. I’m guessing that the Sanhedrin burial shrouds may have been a bit higher quality than lepers’ burial shrouds.

And given the response to the woman anointing him with oil, I don’t think Joseph would have said, “Wait... I can’t use this shroud; it’s too nice... I’ll go find a beggar’s shroud.”


4 posted on 12/17/2009 5:17:28 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, the face of Christ was beaten so bad He didn’t look human. The guy on the shroud was in pretty good shape. Christ’s scalp was torn apart by blows to the head with a rod while He was wearing a crown of thorns. The shroud fella showed no such trauma. In addition to these things, they also plucked out His beard. Since the Bible says long hair is shameful for a man we can conclude our Lord had short hair.
It degrades the incredible sacrifice Christ actually did make to assume the comparatively healthy chap on the shroud of Turin is our Lord. Let us not be ignorant of nor ungrateful for what terrible things Christ had to endure for our sakes.


7 posted on 12/17/2009 5:25:24 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: ClearCase_guy
the History Channel had a show this week about Jesus, about Jewish burial practices of His time, about the events as described in the Bibles. It was fascinating.

They also,examined a Christ-era shroud found in a Jerusalem tomb, covering the bones of a TB victim (presumably the contagious disease is what prevented his being reburied)- the composition of the cloth was not dissimilar from the Turin Shroud. The entire concept of a large piece of cloth being used as a shroud, instead of smaller pieces of linens used as “wrappings” to bind the body- is still up to debate. However, the events and trauma surrounding the described crucifixion and entombment of Jesus, did lead to a plausible scenario that his burial was atypical in many aspects and normal rituals may not have occurred on the day of his death.

10 posted on 12/17/2009 5:28:31 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I believe the Turin cloth is not Jesus’ but the logic here is flawed. Maybe everyone who was buried back then used the same cloth, but I doubt it.


11 posted on 12/17/2009 5:28:58 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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