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To: RnMomof7
My husband and I were both raised Catholic. For me, that meant 12 years of Catholic education. We raised both of our children in the Catholic Church. In the late 90's, when our son was planning to get married, we went to visit the priest. At the time, our son was a college student. The priest asked him directly if he had been attending church on Sunday while he was away at school. Our son squirmed a little and answered no, he had not. The priest's response stunned me - "In the eyes of the Church, you are no longer a Catholic and cannot get married in the Church". I was speechless! It was like being told I was no longer an American or no longer a "Southerner"! I felt like being Catholic was a part of one's heritage. It never occurred to me that it could just disappear.

It is fine now. All of us now attend another denomination and feel very comfortable in our faith.

8 posted on 12/21/2009 2:45:44 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (You can call me ma'am any time you want!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT; RnMomof7; Salvation; kosta50
I felt like being Catholic was a part of one's heritage.

Recently, a well known rabbi drew the pope's attention to just such a notion. He suggested that he do everything possible to prevent Catholics from this same fate that has befallen the Jews. Being a Catholic is not part of one's heritage; it is one's faith. The Catholic Church allows for infant baptism which was the norm for centuries. Peter explained what happens at baptism when he said, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38). But he did not restrict this teaching to adults. He added, "For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him" (2:39). We also read: "Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name" (Acts 22:16). These commands are universal, not restricted to adults. Further, these commands make clear the necessary connection between baptism and salvation, a connection explicitly stated in 1 Peter 3:21: "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

For me, that meant 12 years of Catholic education.

Ditto. By the time I graduated from Catholic High School, I expected that I knew my faith, until I accepted my first full time position at an international airline where my boss was a Mormon convert. He would occasionally bring up the topic of religion (he is a bishop) and I was shocked at how ignorant I truly was of my Catholic faith. Learning about the faith does not end with school or religious ed classes. It continues throughout one's life. One must make a conscious effort, though. How familiar are you with the Catechism of the Catholic Church? Have you read all of the books in the Bible? Do you set aside time for daily prayer?

You are not alone! The majority of Catholics, like you, fall into the category of 'cultural' Catholics who were baptized into the faith, attended Church on most Sundays, occasionally went to Confession but lived in a secular world. The priest who counseled you was obviously one of the rare 'orthodox' priests who was willing to remind your son of his obligation to be a practicing Catholic, rather than a cultural one. Instead of addressing this with the priest and your son, you walked away from the Church and sought out a christian denomination more tolerable to your views. There are tens of thousands of churches that claim to be "christian". As a 'cultural' christian, one can shop around and find just about any denomination that agrees with one's own views, all claiming to have the proper interpretation of Scripture. Can there be more than one interpretation of the Bible? No. The word "truth" is used several times in the New Testament. However, the plural version of the word "truth" never appears in Scripture. Therefore, there can only be one Truth. So how can there be over 20,000 non-Catholic Christian denominations all claiming to have the "Truth"?

You were baptized into the Catholic Church. Perhaps it is now time to rediscover your faith.

Catholics Come Home.

15 posted on 12/21/2009 2:43:36 PM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT; NYer; Arthur McGowan
The priest asked him directly if he had been attending church on Sunday while he was away at school. Our son squirmed a little and answered no, he had not. The priest's response stunned me - "In the eyes of the Church, you are no longer a Catholic and cannot get married in the Church".

That priest was dead wrong in saying, In the eyes of the Church, you are no longer a Catholic. For the sake of his soul, I hope that he repents of what he said to you and your son.

Once you are baptized a Catholic, you are a Catholic for life. Even if you were excommunicated ferendae sententiae (by a formal sentence) by a competent authority, you would still be a Catholic. Why? Because all you would have to do is to go to confession and then pick up right where you left off. (Obviously, in a case of excommunication, that condition would have to be lifted by the competent authority, but still...)

Keep in mind, though, that the priest is within his prudential judgment on whether he will, or will not witness a marriage. It might be perfectly proper for him to say that a person who has been away from the sacraments for years needs to start receiving the sacraments regularly again before consenting to use the parish church and to be willing to witness the marriage. But that is a whole lot different than saying, "In the eyes of the Church, you are no longer a Catholic" because somebody has been away from the sacraments for a couple of years.

Sorry to interject here, but it pisses me off to no end when I hear about some priest who goes off half cocked and becomes his own "magesterium."

21 posted on 12/22/2009 2:56:03 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
For many people, especially the Irish and Italian ,being Catholic goes with the genes :)

When I left the church, my father, who was a real rogue, asked why I left the church, it was a part of our family tradition.It had nothing to do with eternity, just we have always been catholic..

I am glad you found a comfortable spiritual home..

26 posted on 12/22/2009 8:52:44 AM PST by RnMomof7
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