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To: CondoleezzaProtege
and I think what I’m finding out more and more as that the church (me included) is not doing enough—and that’s why liberals have been gaining so much ground. the church could always be doing so much more in caring for the sick, building shelter, feeding the needy, adopting children, setting up crisis pregnancy centers, volunteering, tutoring, etc...if we were, perhaps less people would turn to the government.

I think its important to note that christians ARE the most giving people. Look at orginizations like Samaritans Purse, the Salvation Army, and World Vision. Churches have food pantries, cars programs, PADS programs, job programs.

People do fall through the cracks, and that is what liberals focus on. They focus on the failings, but fail to focus on the successes. Liberals want a utopia that will never be, until Christs return.

Also, most churches have some form of accountability within their programs. Liberals don't want accountability. They want people to be able to do whatever they want, with no repercussions and no accountability.

The Bible gives us rules for living, and consequences for breaking those rules.

People want welfare because there are few if any accountability.

I know a couple with no kids, who get $400 a month in food stamps. I earn my own money, and search for deals, and spend about $200 a month for 2 people, for food.

Meanwhile people like this not only have cell phones, but cell packages that allow huge text messaging and internet access.

I'm not making excuses. I'm stating facts. Christians in general, give and look to help. Liberals give and do little, and yet see the failures, but demand others do more.

Christians in general, believe in stewardship. Liberals don't want accountability, it might hurt someones self esteem.

31 posted on 12/23/2009 7:46:57 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

I agree mountn man. You’re right.

All I’m saying is, if our “80% self-proclaimed Christian” nation was truly pleasing God with all we do right now, then our country wouldn’t be under as much of the obvious wrath we are currently under.

Broken homes, rampant homosexuality, the rise of false teachers like Joel Osteen, are all indicators of God’s judgment.

I suppose though, God is not ultimately satisfied with how much good we “do,” but whether or not we truly *believe* in and love His Son above all things, and whether we make God’s kingdom our first priority—not the state of our own government.


33 posted on 12/23/2009 8:13:11 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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