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To: HarleyD
If such teachings or dogma have not been proclaimed Ex Cathedra, or "from the chair," meaning the pope invoked papal infallibility, then, no, they have not been embraced. Incidentally, the last time (and only) time papal infallibility was invoked was in 1950 when the Assumption was raised to the level of an article of faith. The Orthodox call it "Dormition," and I'm not sure how it fits for them.
21 posted on 12/29/2009 12:42:23 PM PST by Desdemona (These are the times that try men's souls. - Remember Christmas 1776)
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To: Desdemona
If such teachings or dogma have not been proclaimed Ex Cathedra, or "from the chair," meaning the pope invoked papal infallibility, then, no, they have not been embraced.

I'm confused. 1) Are you saying these decrees issued by the Church are or are not infallible? 2) Is Vatican II infallible? 3) If Neither of these documents represents the infallible teaching of the Church, how do you know they are correct?

24 posted on 12/29/2009 4:37:36 PM PST by HarleyD
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