Posted on 01/03/2010 10:30:30 PM PST by Gamecock
First thing that popped into my mind was “Time line.”
Thank for getting that out front.
Which version? The 1646 confession, Chapter XXV Of the church:
Not denominations in the sense of the myriad of Protestant denominations. The Catholic Church is made up of 22 autonomous Churches all in communion with the Bishop of Rome and each holding the same set of doctrine.
Yeah, right. I'm sure many Protestants wish that were true.
It is strange how the Presbyterians put it together backwards. Maybe it's due to the British roots of their church. In any case, it's not really much more difficult to understand it than if it was going in the opposite direction.
“VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ: nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God.”
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“You have said it yourself.” Matthew 26:64; 27:11
You're welcome. Whenever someone brings up Presbyterianism, it is always good to be able to see what a thicket of thorns they're talking about.
Maybe you are confused? I posted a quote from the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith. Presbyterians said that stuff. Those aren't my words. I'm not Presbyterian. ___________________________________________________ Do not bear false witness. Mark 10:19
Maybe you are confused? I posted a quote from the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith. Presbyterians said that stuff. Those aren't my words. I'm not Presbyterian.
___________________________________________________ Do not bear false witness. Mark 10:19
Pilate did not believe Christ was God.
Presbyterianism is fractured.
Neither did the chief priest believe that Christ was God.
Q. Dear Chevrolet, can you tell me the difference between Chevrolets and Fords?
John Calvin was a French lawyer making up doctrine.
Q. Dear Green Bay Packers, which team should I root for, the Packers or the Minnesota Vikings?
Fortunately, the Pope of Rome emphatically does, so your comment is not relevant.
hahahahahaha... You are funny.
It is obvious that you have never really spoken to Roman Catholics about their particular beliefs on many biblical issues. If so, you would find a “gazillion” different beliefs, a term someone else used here. Roam Catholics are just all lumped under the same roof - because they find comfort in that (and so belittle those not under their roof). Being under the same roof, does not mean they all have the same belief. Not at all. At least the Protestants have the honesty to know that they disagree on the minor issues, and so they group themselves together on those issues.
For instance, I know of a Roman catholic who firmly believes that lies come in all colors, not just “white lies”, but depending on the lie, it would be color-coded (white, pink, blue, purple, etc). And only certain colors are really condemned by God, and others He just ignores. And they teach that. Really! Then, there is that nun who insists that I take communion when I come to mass, knowing full well that I am not a Romanist. Of course, her sister (blood sister) would be infuriated if I did. These are just many of hundreds and hundreds of examples I could state. Many here could state others. Not to even mention that unspeakable that pedophiles were sanctioned to continue to practice their sexual beliefs on innocent children.
I could then ask you a QUESTION: What kind of religion do you subscribe to that allows all sorts of rampart and diverse and also unspeakable things, even blatant paganism to continue, just because to stop it would mean major divisions and the “one-roof” idea would collapse into many, many diverse sections of beliefs? And a lot of income would be lost? At least with Protestants, you know what others believe. Of course, unlike you, I am excluding those who may call them Christians, but deny basic Christian tenets - who aren’t even Christians, much less Protestants
I know many Roman Catholic families who go from parish to parish looking for one that teaches and practices what they belief. Or, just as Protestans do, people will sadly leave a parish after many years because the teaching has drifted into what they cannot agree with anymore. What is the difference? You base your argument on the fact that Protestants all believe vastly different things, but yet, so do the Romanists. And if you would take the time to do serious research, you would see that there is not really that much difference between most denominations on the basics. Same with the Romanists. Don’t just parrot what you has been drilled into you. Do your own research.
If people do not believe that Jesus Christ is God, then they are not Christians. Just because they think they are does not make them so. You do not understand the difference in denominations. Yes, it is a fact there are many, but not as many as you have been led to believe. But do not use non-belief in His divinity as an argument against Protestants. It is silly, because they are not Christians. Sad to say, many denominations have fallen away from Truth. But the same can be said of many, many Roman Catholic teachers and their individual flocks. That will not change until Jesus Christ returns.
What is more appetizing to you: a casserole of many, many, ingredients, several of which you are allergic to; or all the ingredients served separately where you don’t have to eat the ones that might kill you or at least leave a very nasty taste in your mouth? The answer is that there is no one best answer because some people’s systems can tolerate more or different poisons than others. But is it right for a casserole only eater to spite the individual ingredients when it has never really tasted them individually, just the blended taste of the casserole? Much less condemn the ingredients to hell? (Perhaps even the poisons make them more liable to all the condeming???) Who knows?
The LORD God Jesus Christ knows. He knows all of His flock and has since before the foundation of the earth, regardless of which physical building they worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. He knows them, regardless of who they hang out with. He knows them and keeps them no matter which ways they tend to go astray. And He is the Great Shepherd. He knows who are His and He leads them where He desires them to be. His ways are above our ways. We just simply won’t know until we see Him face to face.
I’m not Presbyterian. I can tell you the distinctive found in most Baptist churches. You can feel the presence of GOD. You can see JESUS CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT at work in the lives of the church membership.
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