Posted on 01/05/2010 11:32:11 AM PST by freedomyes
I understand your sentiment, if not your personal situation.
FWIW, I have found comfort in the Book of Job.
I don’t understand partical physics or many other of God’s ways. I don’t pretend to understand things like a Tsunami, either.
romans 8:28
Is it possible for the spiritual nature to actually fill something? It is the human/animal perception of reproduction and space. There is an old Jewish tradition that all souls already exist, they are just placed into the body at conception- but the soul (spirit?) is our real self, not the body.
Don’t Try to Figure God out
http://www.magic-city-news.com/J_Grant_Swank_61/Don_t_Try_to_Figure_God_out12834.shtml
>>Answer: From Eternal Punishment decreed by God who is Holy.<<
Yep. Here is an interesting perspective on that eternal punishment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2240648/posts
Right now I’m pretty angry at the “Powers that be”. It will be some time before I can look objectively at it. Till then I’m just trying to make sense and deal with the agony of my recent tragedy.
My father told me God put women on this planet so we would stop trying to figure out God.
Specifically, if we can’t figure out a woman, we sure can’t figure out God.
You nailedit.
seeing he has promised to shake not only the earth, but the heavens and the earth, what’s a little Tsunami?
Looking around at the world today, would it be a bad thing if it all passed away? If not, why are we perplexed when a little part of it does—seeing that what remains forever is without corruption?
There are times in our lives when we all ask these questions. And no answer can be good enough. My kids’ best-friends just lost their father. A musician I respected was just killed in a car accident. I don’t get it. Losses...hurts... We go thru these things, we get thru them, but we ache inside. We blame Bush, but humor doesn’t seem to help. We just keep going, not seeing ‘Gods plan’. I have been pondering this life being a ‘breath’ or ‘shadow’ (Psalm 144:4). ‘Someday we will understand’ rings hollow right now...but that is what we have...
I remember when my ex-wife (at the time, of 20 years) divorced me. I was driving by the Kingdome during a Mariners game and could not understand how those people could be laughing and enjoying a baseball game while my life was collapsing. Dead serious. It was beyond my comprehension how they could callously do that.
Intellectually I knew I was being unreasonable, but my feelings were more powerful than my intellect at that time.
For me that was 13 years ago. My life has been MUCH better than the previous 20 years. And I give God the credit and glory.
It gets better, but I understand how you feel (as much as I can, I mean).
Satan is in charge on earth, not God.
It’s funny, because when in the Lord’s Prayer, we ask
“Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven”.
We never stop to consider the gravity of it - His will is ALWAYS done on Heaven, but on earth, not always.
All things serve God’s purpose. We don’t know the plan. We just obey.
The idea of whether something is ‘good’ or ‘bad’ is our spin on things.
Two twin brothers are raised by a tyrant of a parent who beat them both to within inches of their lives. One becomes a successful businessman with a family, the other a murderer. Both were asked the same question:
“How do you find yourself where you are today?”
Both had identical replies:
“Given my circumstances, I had no other choice . . .”
I don’t know God’s plan, and I don’t want to know. I do know this - everything I have is a gift. Every moment, my family, each meal - everything.
If it is taken away from me, I’ll try to be grateful. I certainly want to be right now, but I may be in an awful lot of pain at that particular moment and do or say things I don’t mean to God.
Peter certainly had the best intentions about admitting he was Jesus’ disciple before the cock crowed thrice.
In addition to being a sinner, and broken, I also know I’m a coward. Yet, still, God has a use for me.
May He continue to recognize what a weak little man he’s created with me, and continue to be merciful on me and coddle me as He does.
I hope I see the use in the tragedies that befall me, and if I must afix blame, may I place it where it rightfully belongs.
From Aish HaTorah's award-winning website, aish.com
Born in 1948, I have never experienced a catastrophe as massive and sudden as the earthquake/tsunamis that, at last count, have killed more than 60,000 people. Living in Israel during the terror war of the last few years, I have unfortunately become accustomed to crying at the funerals of children. But to read of hundreds of children together being buried in mass graves staggers my mind and batters my heart. How should/can/does one respond to a tragedy this enormous?
“Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven”.
We never stop to consider the gravity of it - His will is ALWAYS done on Heaven, but on earth, not always.”
Wow, that’s a very good point.
It’s pushing 3 months since my beloved passed. I don’t know how those who have lost their lovers made it thru. I will some how ... but so much pain ... the holiday’s were rough.
Life is just one long search for the thing that will kill you. In this case, 60,000 people found it...
God, not sure what He thinks because I think like a human.
Actually when Man sees real love, He sees God. The Apostle John said "Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7,8).
Therefore, If you have seen real love, you have known God. Your next response is probably that you don't believe in Love. To Which I would reply, then you would be dead, because babes who do not get love die. And you can clearly see, I believe you are alive at the other end of this thread.
16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." 17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. 19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return." 20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living. 21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
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