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Theological FAQ: Is the whole bible about Christ, or just the New Testament?
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Posted on 01/11/2010 12:00:38 PM PST by Gamecock

According to the New Testament, and to Christ himself, the entire corpus of Old Testament scriptures teach of Christ in every part; thus, Jesus rebukes the Pharisees for failing to see him in the Old Testament (John 5:39-40); he calls his own disciples fools and slow of heart not to see how, from the first books of Moses to the last of the prophets, the Old Testament taught of Christ's passion and victorious ascension (Luke 24:25-27); and then, he opens their hearts to understand that everything in the Law, Psalms, and Prophets (shorthand for the entire Old Testament scriptures) taught of his suffering, death, resurrection, and the resultant spread of the gospel to all the nations (Luke 24:44-48).

Many of these truths that Christ proclaimed were not apparent on the surface, but, after he had come and fulfilled everything written, then the way in which the scriptures had foreshadowed his life and ministry ahead of time was brought to light, and could be examined and understood. That this was in fact the case, and that the Old Testament scriptures contained hidden truths which could not be fully understood until the coming of Christ, was recognized even by the very prophets who wrote those scriptures; thus, Peter tells us that they knew they were speaking of things that were primarily for us who would live after the ministry of Christ, and that things concerning the passion and the following glories of Christ would be revealed to us, through their writings, that they could only wonder about (1 Peter 1:10-12). Paul sums this all up very well in Romans 16:25-27, where he teaches that his gospel, i.e., the proclamation of Christ, was hidden in previous ages, but was now being revealed – through the Old Testament scriptures! In other words, the message of Christ was in the Old Testament, but it was hidden until Christ came and brought the types and shadows to light, through his ministry on earth and afterward.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: doctrine; theology
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1 posted on 01/11/2010 12:00:40 PM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 01/11/2010 12:03:10 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock

Well, even Jews think the old testament points to a coming Messiah. And who was that coming Messiah? Christians believe it to be Jesus Christ, Jews think he is still coming in the future. So I guess the answer would be yes the old testament points to Christ.


3 posted on 01/11/2010 12:05:02 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: Gamecock

Depends on if you’re Jewish or Christian. Haha.

For the record — the whole thing is about Christ ... He will come, He is here, He is crucified, He is resurrected, He will return.

SnakeDoc


4 posted on 01/11/2010 12:06:32 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Life is tough; it's tougher if you're stupid. -- John Wayne)
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To: Gamecock

Excellent !

So many people think the Old Testament is just that “old”...when in fact it points us to Christ and actually clarifies the New Testament .

I just started to study Leviticus , Christ is all over that book and it is that book that clarifies the lamb of God and the sacrifice of Christ for sin


5 posted on 01/11/2010 12:06:49 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: fish hawk
Well, even Jews think the old testament points to a coming Messiah. And who was that coming Messiah? Christians believe it to be Jesus Christ, Jews think he is still coming in the future. So I guess the answer would be yes the old testament points to Christ.

Many Christians don't realize that ALL of Scripture testifies to Christ.

Ask some Christian you Know what is the OT about. You may be shocked.

6 posted on 01/11/2010 12:09:56 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock

I can only say that, after I was saved, I was amazed at how often, reading the OT I said to myself, “That’s about Jesus!”


7 posted on 01/11/2010 12:09:56 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Gamecock
Throughout the OT we Jews were looking for a conquering Messiah to lift the yoke of oppression from occupiers and those that invaded us over the centuries. We did not recognize the Suffering Messiah who came first ... but it will be the Conquering Messiah who will come next ....

(I'm a Messianic Jew)

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8 posted on 01/11/2010 12:12:58 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: Gamecock

The “Old Testament” is full of messiah. It is as relevant today as it was 2000 years ago. The question is, who is the messiah? For Christians, Jesus Christ fulfills the mission. For Jews, not so much. For Mohammed-heads, they are awaiting a worldwide nuclear exchange so that the messiah can climb out of the well. I am not going to speculate on the likelihood of that outcome, but my money is remaining on Jesus Christ. My apologies to any Jews who disagree. You are welcome to propose alternatives, and I will listen with an open mind.


9 posted on 01/11/2010 12:13:56 PM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Gamecock

What a silly question for those who would ask it. Of course, the whole Bible is about Christ.


10 posted on 01/11/2010 12:20:21 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: SkyDancer

Being a messianic Jew takes a lot of guts. My figurative hat is off to you. May you and the others like you who have recognized Moshiach in Jesus spread the light to your people.


11 posted on 01/11/2010 12:44:47 PM PST by nysuperdoodle
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To: nysuperdoodle

Thanks ... our services are great ... sing, dance, read Torah, bless Jesus (Yashua) ...


12 posted on 01/11/2010 12:50:59 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: Gamecock

Every book must have a theme, or central idea, and The Bible is no exception. If one doesn’t grasp what the main idea is, then the book will not make much sense. Sadly, that is the state of many in the world today regarding the Book of Books.

Submitted for your approval (or disapproval), I believe the theme of The Bible is the kindom of God. Period. Yes, Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the central character and fills its pages, but the thread that runs so true through and through is the kingdom of God. Jesus Himself must have thought this was the case, because that is what He preached everywhere He went. And that is what He taught His disciples to preach, everywhere they went.

Just one person’s opinion.


13 posted on 01/11/2010 12:55:28 PM PST by Overwatcher
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To: Gamecock

Hmm, quite correct; and then there’s the headier question, who was John addressing in the Gospel of John? Of course the apparent answer is that he was addressing the nascent Christian community of his day; read a bit closer and ask yourself, are those the only people and time he’s addressing?


14 posted on 01/11/2010 12:58:14 PM PST by glide625
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To: Gamecock

Most christian theologians say Christ runs through the old Testament, no only in writings and prophecies, but in appearances also.

When Christ said, “I am”, the Jews picked up rocks to stone Him for a reason. It was because he was saying that He was the “I AM” of the old testament. He was in the fire with the Hebrew men in Daniel, and many believe he was “The Angel of the Lord” throughout the old testament, as that angel seemed to recieve worship from whomever he appeared to.

Of course, our Jewish friends will disagree with me. I am merely stating Christian belief. But a great book on this is “Christ before the Manger”, now OOP, by Ron Rhodes.


15 posted on 01/11/2010 12:58:36 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: Gamecock; stylecouncilor
I believe Jesus thought of himself as messiah in the sense of “moshiach”, meaning “anointed with oil” in the way that David, Solomon and other Kings Of The Jews had been - and for which he had striven also - but had not considered himself divine in any case, which would have been blasphemous to the Hebrews. Nor did he pray to “Our Father”, as hallowed be “our” name, but taught it instead, as with the rest of scripture, always as a Jew.
16 posted on 01/11/2010 1:25:53 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Gamecock

A saying I grew up with -

The Old Testiment is the New Testiment concealed
The New Testiment is the Old Testiment revealed.


17 posted on 01/11/2010 1:42:52 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: SkyDancer
"(I'm a Messianic Jew)"

I've never had the pleasure of meeting a Messianic Jew.
God bless you, brother.

18 posted on 01/11/2010 1:52:16 PM PST by Semper Mark (Life is a series of sucker punches. Protect yourself at all times.)
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To: Markos33
"God bless you, brother.

Sister :) \0/

19 posted on 01/11/2010 2:06:24 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: SkyDancer

I’d take it another step further.

All of human History is His Story.


20 posted on 01/11/2010 2:12:05 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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