Posted on 01/20/2010 10:16:09 AM PST by NYer
Mel's not SSPX (he has/had his own thing going), and SSPX, for all their faults, would not ever endorse someone committing adultery. Or getting drunk, for that matter.
What happened to the gag order?
It is Willianson's position, about 2+2=4, but there is no indication that it is Fellay or even the majority of the SSPX's position. Williamson himself says that the negotiations are ongoing. Given his druthers, perhaps it's a sign that the negotiations are going well.
I think this is an accurate assessment.
Nope, not anti-papal but antisemitic! Williamson is the epitome of and at the crux of what we protestants take issue with the "mother" Church of Western Christianity under its current "pope". Here is an apostate disciple of fraudulent dogma, duly excommunicated by a holy RC Father (JPII) many of us consider a saint, who is welcomed back with open, forgiving arms by Ratzinger without having to go through any confessional act of accountability for obvious sinful disobedience; all the while, he (Williamson), displaying impenitent hubris .
Archbishop Timothy Broglio (but I don't believe he'd or anyone else would know about the contraceptive users among his flock.)
Are you actually of the belief that one can deny the holocaust, question the legitimacy of Israel and NOT be antisemetic?
RE: "we Protestants” is an oxymoron, since each Protestant is his own church of one, his own pope and king. Anything a Protestant believes, can be refuted using another Protestant. You are on your own, flying solo.
Nope...some of us (Episcopalians, Anglicans) have bishops just like you do...and the diocese owns the church!
There is no such thing as the Church of Western Christianity, it is an insult all the Eastern Rite Catholics. The Catholic Church is universal, all over the world.
You mean the C catholic church is universal...not the Catholic Church. BTW, ever here of the Great Schism?
RE; Here is an apostate disciple of fraudulent dogma, You don't have a clue what an apostate is. You don't know anything about the case of the 4 SSPX bishops.
Okay, genius, whatever the Society of St. Pius X bishops are, they aren't exactly faithful to the vow of obedience they took.
As a Catholic I don't care how ALL of the non-Catholic religions run their show. You are not a Catholic, why should you care about our internal matters? Might it be that the truth is that you care because deep down you know that the Catholic Church is the true religion, and a firebrand on your conscience?
A "true Christian" religion is one that embraces the divinity and hope of salvation from a forgiving Heavenly Father for sinful deeds by the presence of the risen Jesus Christ who paid the debt for those sins some 2,000 years ago. Through Christ's first human vicar (St. Peter) the catholic church was founded, hence "Mother Church"...and for that we protestants thank you--well, not you (especially being the chauvinistically protestant basher you are) but the historic roots of the church.
You should look him up--as well as his predecessor Archbishop Edwing O'Brien (now Archbishop of Baltimore). I've met both of them at confirmation services of military children. Their sermons were inspiring and uplifting for all Christians...incidentally, they have/had the largest diocese in the world (all the military bases, plus embassies) and they have done chaplain duties with Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Airmen and Guardsmen--meaning they've seen combat up front and personal, slept in muddy foxholes eating cold MREs, been subjected to hostile fire, and given last rites to the young and dying of sniper wounds or torn in two by IEDs; not the typical elderly suffering after a lifetime of smoking the average priest sees in a hospice.
What a non sequitur! The holocaust had nothing to do with Jesus as it occurred some 1,900 years later.
2) He never denied the killing of Jews by the Nazis, read your own article, the other one that you posted on Willamson. He questions the figure of 6 million, and the gas chambers killing millions.
Do you know how the figure of 6 million was derived? It accounted for all atrocities committed on Jews, Gypsies, Seventh Day Adventists, mentally/physically challenged persons...any who did not fit the Nazi ideal. Obviously RCs did because most of the nazis were Roman Catholic--including Hitler. And the figure is accurate because France, Eastern Europe and the other countries invaded by Hitler kept census records which could not account that many persons, the majority of whom were Jewish.
3) the legitimacy of Israel is question by Orthodox Jewish rabbis, are they anti-semitic to you? Look it up online for yourself.
The legitimacy of Israel was established by a U.N. world mandate in 1948--62 years ago this year. For any official to deny its legitimacy, would be as if the King of England decided the U.S. was not legitimate in 1851, 62 years after our Constitution was ratified and after he had twice been defeated in war. He would be a buffoon, which Wuilliamson is!
Bishop Willamson is a real man, and is not afraid of the secular humanist world that runs the media, he tells it like he sees it. Do you know anyone else who speaks clearly like him or the orthodox rabbis you'll find out about?
Williamson is a fraud who helped establish a cult, pure and simple. His SSPX is little different than the Legionaries of Christ which the pope has ordered investigated because of widespread sexual misconduct. Williamson's 2+2=4, 2+2=5 or 2+2=41/2 and reason "that the Vatican will have to reform" garbage he gave to the French news agency proves he is an unabashed, unapologetic, impenitent jew-hating rebel. And, if you ascribed to the doctrine of papal infallibility, then how the hell can you reconcile the fact that JPII excommunicated him only to be countermanded?
jew-hating
Look. That denial of methods and numbers of the Jews that perished is offensive to their memory no one disputes. But that goes too far. You are ascribing an emotion, and an unhealthy, in fact sinful one, to a man you never met, and who repeteadly denied that he is motivated by hatred.
I think Williamson is very misguided, but he should not be made what he is not. Certainly his ex-communication, or possible reconciliation have nothing to do with his musings on the events of 20c century.
Excommunications are by design instruments of reconciliation. They are done so that they can by, hopefully lifted one day. This one was no different.
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