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The Lady of Fatima: Has Mary Appeared in Visions?
Christian Research Institute ^ | Hank Hanegraaff

Posted on 02/19/2010 11:32:44 PM PST by bogusname

THE LADY OF FATIMA- Introduction Some Roman Catholics believe that Mary, the mother of Christ, has actually appeared to people in places like Fatima and Medjugorje. Well, did she?

THE LADY OF FATIMA- Biblical? In evaluating the alleged appearances of Mary, our primary concern would be to determine whether these apparitions are indeed biblical. Interestingly enough, these “Marian apparitions” (as they are commonly referred to) are inextricably woven together with the official Catholic teachings about Mary which, by the way, is known as Mariology. In fact, it would be fair to say that Catholic Mariology is the very foundation of Marian apparitions. It’s been well said that a structure is only as solid as its foundation; and in looking at Marian apparitions, we need to examine the integrity of this whole concept referred to as Catholic Mariology.

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TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: agendadrivenfreeper; blessedvirginmary; bvm; catholic; catholicwhiners; fatima; mary; olfatima; virginmary
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To: Cap'n Crunch

I don’t follow you, where else would I get it? And it isn’t a bother it is liberating, freedom.


141 posted on 02/20/2010 7:36:58 PM PST by xone
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To: pbear8

Any Christian who loves the Lord is His blessed one.


142 posted on 02/20/2010 7:38:46 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Cyclops08

The catholic church traditions didn’t come till much later?

You claim to be a baptist. Here’s a bit of history about the baptist church, from a protestant reference, indicating the baptist church started around the year 1641. Does that count as ‘much later?’

Henry C. Vedder, well-known church historian at Crozer Theological Seminary in Chester, Pennsylvania, from 1894 to 1927, concluded that after 1610 there was an unbroken succession of Baptist churches. He stated that from the year 1641, at the latest, Baptist practice and doctrine had the essential features that they have today.


143 posted on 02/20/2010 7:40:02 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: xone

You’d do as alot of others do, they just read and interpret scripture as they wish. Why bother with a church? What do you get from the Lutheran church that you can’t get in scripture?


144 posted on 02/20/2010 7:42:22 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thess. 2:15).
they were teaching basic doctrine 101, not prayers to dead people or pilgrimages to see Mary in a holy tortilla.

If someone started to pray to Mary they would have been thrown out of the church. Prayer is to God alone.


145 posted on 02/20/2010 7:48:06 PM PST by Cyclops08
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To: Cap'n Crunch

Here’s a bit of history about the baptist church, from a protestant reference, indicating the baptist church started around the year 1641. Does that count as ‘much later?’


well it shows the Catholics are not the one true church. It shows God is willing to raise a body of believers from any setting.


146 posted on 02/20/2010 7:50:21 PM PST by Cyclops08
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To: Cyclops08

Evidently you have a love for Christ. But do you think Christ is going to appreciate the insulting comments you have made here about His mother?


147 posted on 02/20/2010 8:00:53 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: caww
"God’s Spirit is mine."

...and is mine through the daily prayer of the Rosary

148 posted on 02/20/2010 8:03:46 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
You’d do as alot of others do, they just read and interpret scripture as they wish.

The doctrine set forth in the Lutheran Confessions is from the Bible, that is true.

Why bother with a church? What do you get from the Lutheran church that you can’t get in scripture?

Fellowship with the Saints

The Sacraments

The Exposition of the Word

Church Discipline

Coffee

A place to operate from for some of the 'good works that have been laid out for me to do'

149 posted on 02/20/2010 8:07:26 PM PST by xone
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To: HarleyD

Poor Mary. RIP.


150 posted on 02/20/2010 8:12:00 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Cap'n Crunch

Evidently you have a love for Christ. But do you think Christ is going to appreciate the insulting comments you have made here about His mother?


I haven’t said anything insulting, not have I said anything that isn’t true. I stand by my words. And I know that when i stand before God, I will not be judged for idolatry.

another post on FR shows this little tidbit:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2451801/posts
Pastor Bob’s Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: “Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us?’ (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isn’t it sad, my brothers and sisters?”

Pastor Bob goes on to say: “Jesus dealt with these Mary worshipers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, ‘A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked!” But He said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”’”

Mary is NOT to be worship or prayed to. there was never any indication in the bible that she was any different from any other believer. Mary is as human and sinful as any of us. She was just obedient.


151 posted on 02/20/2010 8:12:24 PM PST by Cyclops08
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To: Cyclops08

bttt


152 posted on 02/20/2010 8:13:37 PM PST by xone
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To: antceecee

“God’s Spirit is mine.”

...and is mine through the daily prayer of the Rosary


and mine through then indwelling of the Holy Spirit.


153 posted on 02/20/2010 8:14:50 PM PST by Cyclops08
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To: antceecee

What happens if you lose it or misplace it? can you still pray anyway?


154 posted on 02/20/2010 8:17:22 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Lose what?


155 posted on 02/20/2010 8:18:34 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

your roseary beads...


156 posted on 02/20/2010 8:24:43 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

lol


157 posted on 02/20/2010 8:25:56 PM PST by xone
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To: caww

The Rosary isn’t about the beads.. it’s about the prayer. Are you a child?


158 posted on 02/20/2010 8:32:58 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: xone

Yeah...now now..


159 posted on 02/20/2010 8:33:11 PM PST by caww
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To: antceecee

Well, according to the Fatima story and your statements previously why wouldn’t one wonder what you would do if you don’t have the beads. Do you still say all the prayers anyway. Reasonable question I thought...guess not.


160 posted on 02/20/2010 8:36:23 PM PST by caww
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