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REVERENCE FOR THE BIBLE -Mormon- (OPEN)
LDS Newsroom ^ | January, 2008

Posted on 02/23/2010 9:54:36 AM PST by greyfoxx39

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To: Colofornian

Oh I’ve puzzled through that too until my head hurt!

Here’s another one:

Once you become god over your own planet, do you have to reenact the way Mormons describe events here on earth? You must give birth to a son, name him jesus, then another son and name him lucifer. And then events unfold...but what if they don’t? What if your lucifer doesn’t rebel and your jesus does. Or neither? Or both?

And do you have to spawn a new Joseph Smith to write a new BOM to explain how it works on your planet?

Meanwhile the same scenario is working out all over the universe as all the thousands, then millions, then billions of other gods deal with their own planets.

(that last reminds me of the gallon jar filled with little beans sitting on the desk at the animal shelter to illustrate how many offspring one set of un-neutered cats can be responsible for in a few years time)


341 posted on 02/24/2010 7:10:44 AM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: Colofornian
...the Mormon claim that "families are forever?"

That one claim alone is enough to put me off of Mormonism. Forever? Good grief, we can barely get through Thanksgiving without some sort of drama, LOL!

342 posted on 02/24/2010 7:27:55 AM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: T Minus Four; Elsie; Colofornian; Utah Binger; Godzilla; reaganaut; svcw; Tennessee Nana
Once you become god over your own planet, do you have to reenact the way Mormons describe events here on earth? You must give birth to a son, name him jesus, then another son and name him lucifer. And then events unfold...but what if they don’t? What if your lucifer doesn’t rebel and your jesus does. Or neither? Or both?

And do you have to spawn a new Joseph Smith to write a new BOM to explain how it works on your planet?

Meanwhile the same scenario is working out all over the universe as all the thousands, then millions, then billions of other gods deal with their own planets.

What a great illustration! Mormon cognitive dissonance in a nutshell.

Research on cognitive dissonance:

Festinger first developed this theory in the 1950s to explain how members of a cult who were persuaded by their leader, a certain Mrs Keech, that the earth was going to be destroyed on 21st December and that they alone were going to be rescued by aliens, actually increased their commitment to the cult when this did not happen (Festinger himself had infiltrated the cult, and would have been very surprised to meet little green men).

The dissonance of the thought of being so stupid was so great that instead they revised their beliefs to meet with obvious facts: that the aliens had, through their concern for the cult, saved the world instead.

Link

1978, anyone?

343 posted on 02/24/2010 7:30:12 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: Vendome

some of them, the exchange was rather hectic in regards to the ecumunical threads and open responses, so I may not have caught them all


344 posted on 02/24/2010 7:37:23 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Cronos
Ok. But the Bible doesn't talk about God being a man and that we all become Gods. That's Gnostic talk.

In part, it is also found in greek mythology of the Hermes cult whom Seventy Milton R. Hunter in 1946 stated "The teachings of the Hermetic pagan cult sound quite familiar to those who are acquainted with the doctrine taught by Jesus, by John the Beloved, by Paul, and by Joseph Smith the American Prophet. (note this is all in context with mormon defintions) . . . . “Note the close resemblances between the foregoing pagan teachings and those of the true Gospel…Thus we see that the true doctrine of knowing the Lord as the pathway to Godhood was revealed to man as part of the knowledge of the divine plan of salvation; and, like many other Gospel truths, it was disseminated among pagan worshipers.” (The Gospel Through the Ages, 1946)

345 posted on 02/24/2010 7:41:02 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: T Minus Four
I don’t think the Mormon religion teaches to trust God.

I think that is not too far out of bounds of an observation. They are taught that the prophet and priesthood speak for God and place their trust in them.

346 posted on 02/24/2010 7:43:02 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Utah Binger
... Cause the excited FR stalkers to start driving by.

You HOPE!

You caffine pusher, you!

347 posted on 02/24/2010 8:23:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; Utah Binger

Death before decaf!


348 posted on 02/24/2010 8:28:24 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
 
They are taught that the prophet and priesthood speak for God and place their trust in them.
Surely NOT!!??



"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, revelators' of the church, is cultivating the spirit of apostasy. One cannot speak evil of the lord's anointed... and retain the holy spirit in his heart. This sort of game is Satan's favorite pastime, and he has practiced it to believing souls since Adam. He {Satan} wins a great victory when he can get members of the church to speak against their leaders and to do their own thinking."

"When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan--it is God's Plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give directions, it should mark the end of controversy, God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the kingdom of God."

Ward Teachers Message, Deseret News, Church Section p. 5, May 26, 1945
Also included in the Improvement Era, June 1945 (which was the official church magazine before the Ensign)


"Always keep your eye on the President of the church, and if he ever tells you to do anything, even if it is wrong, and you do it, the lord will bless you for it but you don't need to worry. The lord will never let his mouthpiece lead the people astray."

LDS President Marion G. Romney (of the first presidency), quoting LDS President (and prophet) Heber J. Grant "Conference Report" Oct. 1960 p. 78


"The Lord Almighty leads this Church, and he will never suffer you to be led astray if you are found doing your duty. You may go home and sleep as sweetly as a babe in its mother's arms, as to any danger of your leaders leading you astray, for if they should try to do so the Lord would quickly sweep them from the earth."

Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 9, p. 289, 1862.


"When the Prophet speaks the debate is over".

N. Eldon Tanner, August Ensign 1979, pages 2-3


"I sat in this tabernacle some years ago as President Joseph Fielding Smith stood at this pulpit. It was the general priesthood meeting of April 1972, the last general conference before President Smith passed away. He said: 'There is one thing which we should have exceedingly clear in our minds. Neither the President of the Church, nor the First Presidency, or the united voice of the First Presidency and the Twelve will ever lead the Saints astray or send forth counsel to the world that is contrary to the mind and will of the lord'."

L. Aldin Porter of the Presidency of the First Quorum of Seventies (Ensign, Nov. 1994, p. 63)


"Follow your leaders who have been duly ordained and have been publicly sustained, and you will not be led astray."

Boyd K. Packer (General Conference, Oct. 1992; Ensign, Nov. 1992)


"The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray."

President Wilford Woodruff (considered scripture as it is canonized at the end of the D&C)


349 posted on 02/24/2010 8:30:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
My personal favorite is the The Wicked Bible
350 posted on 02/24/2010 8:50:36 AM PST by TheDon
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To: Elsie

351 posted on 02/24/2010 9:00:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TheDon

***My personal favorite is the The Wicked Bible ***

LOL.

By the way, there is a difference in Cambridge and Oxford KJV bibles. Which does the Mormons use?


352 posted on 02/24/2010 9:04:02 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Placemark


353 posted on 02/24/2010 1:56:22 PM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: svcw

ttt


354 posted on 02/24/2010 4:22:19 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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