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To: marshmallow
IGNASIUS LOYOLA: "To be right in everything, we ought always to hold that the white which I see, is black, if the Hierarchical Church so decides it"

Did Ignasius write that or not?

Or is this black, too?

19 posted on 02/26/2010 8:14:25 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Did Ignasius write that or not?

Of course he wrote it.

Would you like me to explain what it means?

It means that in matters of faith, we are entirely fallible and fallen sinners. Fallible to the extent that we ought not to trust even our own eyes. The Church, on the other hand, being the Bride of Christ, is infallible and can be trusted in all matters of faith. It was given to us by Jesus himself to guide us on the path to salvation.

It's called obedience, which is a virtue.

To that, compare the pride-engendered Protestant position, which says that moi....is the one who gets to make the final call. Obedience is not for me. If I say it's white, then that's all that matters.

That's called rebellion.

It is demonic.

21 posted on 02/26/2010 8:30:35 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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