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To: P-Marlowe
"Every one knows they are sinners whether they are saved or not."

I don't think so. Obviously you haven't read all the posts on this thread. I think there are posters who would not recognize the idea that they are sinners. I suspect most of the world thinks that their own good works outweigh any bad deeds they have done, if they are even willing to admit to themselves that they have actually done any bad deeds.

Why do you think people rationalize their sin by comparing themselves to others or saying they do more good than bad? Its because they recognize that they are sinners so they try to make excuses so they don't have to change. If people weren't aware of sin, they wouldn't even think about good works vs bad.

Lord, take this cursed free will from me! Mold my will to Yours. Enslave my will to Your will, Oh Lord and let the old things pass away so that all things become new!

Can you say that prayer?

I have prayed that prayer but to be honest, it scares me because I know that God will answer it. I may be a bit immature in my faith. This discussion is a bit tedious though. I think we agree about quite a bit but I am not going to become a Calvinist and I don't think I will change your mind. In the end, it doesn't matter that much. We both believe that we are saved through faith because Jesus loved us enough to pay the penalty for our sins.

1,079 posted on 03/12/2010 9:38:42 PM PST by Tramonto (Live Free or Die)
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To: Tramonto
I think we agree about quite a bit but I am not going to become a Calvinist and I don't think I will change your mind.

I am not a Calvinist. I have been accused of being one because I often find myself making the same arguments against free will worshipers that Calvinists make. Free will is not so much a gift as it is a curse. Your free will can never save you, but from an Arminian point of view it sure as Hell can condemn you. So what good is a free will anyway? We should all be praying that God remove this accursed free will from our lives and make us slaves to Christ.

1,082 posted on 03/12/2010 9:50:46 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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