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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; MHGinTN; Godzilla
Did not the authors of those gospel accounts give their lives in defense of their testimony?  

Do you have extra biblical evidence of that? No you don't. Again, everything begins and ends in the Bible, and Bible related legends, a priori assumed to be true. How do we "know" that Stephen allegedly prayed to Jesus? Easy, the Bible says so! Of course it does.

How do we "know" that Paul was in Rome? The legend says so. How do we "know" Peter was crucified upside down? How do we "know" Joseph Smith found hieroglyphic tablets? How do we "know" God parted the red Sea? How do we know The Koran is Allah's own word without any errors? How do we "know" Ahura Mazda will defeat Ahriman? Let me guess...

The legend says so. It's all legend and hearsay. We have "eyewitness" accounts written decades after the fact, in copies written and rewritten hundreds of times by hand without any outside corroboration of alleged "supernatural" events.

If the Fatima "miracle" in 1917 occurred before photography, say 100 years earlier, we would have religions zealots "testifying" that the miracle did happen because it was "witnessed" by 70,000 people! And by now it would be a legend accepted as truth (well, it actually is in some circles). Who can argue with that? Well, in this case it was film.

Thankfully, some pointed their cameras to the sun and recorded no miracle. I guess the diehards will argue that it did happen but that the cameras lacked the "spiritual eyes" needed to see the "invisible." Who knows, he may even successfully be practicing law somewhere...

1,188 posted on 03/13/2010 9:55:39 AM PST by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50

This is a very strong post.


1,205 posted on 03/13/2010 11:36:58 AM PST by getoffmylawn (aka Cool Breeze)
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To: kosta50; P-Marlowe; xzins; spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; MHGinTN
Do you have extra biblical evidence of that? No you don't.

Yes there is kosta and you know better.

How do we "know" that Paul was in Rome?

How do we know of the caesars? David?, Solomon? Your low standard for historicity is laughable - legitimate historians do not doubt the existence of Jesus

1,267 posted on 03/14/2010 7:55:52 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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