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To: P-Marlowe; kosta50; Alamo-Girl; xzins; spirited irish; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; MHGinTN; Godzilla
God does not need to prove his existence. By our very existence he has proven it sufficiently to any who would care to use the powers of reason that God has given to us. God did not begin his scriptures by postulating his own existence. He expects when we pick up the scriptures that we must acknowledge his existence.... He exists. Period.

This is what kosta refuses to accept "in principle" — i.e., without "proof" satisfactory to himself. Sigh....

And thus you are so right, P-Marlowe: "It is impossible to debate theology with a person who denies the very existence of the Theos."

Thank you so much for your beautiful essay/post!

1,222 posted on 03/13/2010 1:02:49 PM PST by betty boop (Moral law is not rooted in factual laws of nature; they only tell us what happens, not what ought to)
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To: betty boop; P-Marlowe; kosta50; Alamo-Girl; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; MHGinTN; Godzilla

snip: This is what kosta refuses to accept “in principle” — i.e., without “proof” satisfactory to himself.

Spirited: The key words are ‘satisfactory to himself.’ Pride of Mind has seduced many people today into believing that whatever nonsense invented by their over-heated imaginations is the final word on everything. If they say the words it must be so and everyone else must-—without question-—accept their revelations as if from the Oracles of Delphi.

What we are witnessing here in America with its’ epidemic of narcissism is the hardening of the heart brought on when the soul turns inward away from God. As the soul turns inward there is increased fixation on ‘self’ and a corresponding blindness to reality and to ‘others.’ The inward turning soul is increasingly a dark soul unlit by the still, small voice of conscience. This in turn leads to the death of morally informed reason and the liberation of inflated, disordered passions and impulses, obsessions, neurosis, paranoia, and megalomania on whose behalf morally-dead reason is used. Solipsism is the usual result. Though the intellect still functions, the individual is in fact morally insane.

A wise man once said that it is impossible to reason with the quite literally-—unreasonable.


1,229 posted on 03/13/2010 1:52:39 PM PST by spirited irish
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