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To: RnMomof7; Dutchboy88
Peter did not believe this, He simply saw himself as an elder.

You were there?

There is no scripture giving the apostles permission to appoint apostles as successors..

I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 16:19; 18:18 - the apostles are given Christ's authority to make visible decisions on earth that will be ratified in heaven. God raises up humanity in Christ by exalting his chosen leaders and endowing them with the authority and grace they need to bring about the conversion of all. Without a central authority in the Church, there would be chaos (as there is in Protestantism).

There is no apostolic success in the NT, there is no Priesthood in the new church, there is no papacy in the new church..

Acts 1:15-26 - the first thing Peter does after Jesus ascends into heaven is implement apostolic succession. Matthias is ordained with full apostolic authority. Only the Catholic Church can demonstrate an unbroken apostolic lineage to the apostles in union with Peter through the sacrament of ordination and thereby claim to teach with Christ's own authority.

81 posted on 03/08/2010 3:37:56 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer; Dutchboy88
RN......Peter did not believe this, He simply saw himself as an elder.
NYer.. You were there?

I have something just as good as an eyewitness account..Peters words.. 1 Peter 1 Therefore, I exhort the elders among you, as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed,

Acts 10:26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man....something todays 'pope would never say BTW

As for the keys, they are only useful to open something, Christ gave Peter the honor of opening the gospel to the Jews on Pentecost. Once the door is open, there is no further need for the keys

Acts 1:15-26 - the first thing Peter does after Jesus ascends into heaven is implement apostolic succession. Matthias is ordained with full apostolic authority. Only the Catholic Church can demonstrate an unbroken apostolic lineage to the apostles in union with Peter through the sacrament of ordination and thereby claim to teach with Christ's own authority.

The question is did he have the authority to do that? Christ never indicated or gave over that authority to any man

We need only look at the situation to see that was NOT Gods plan, it was mans plan.

God had ordained and raised up a man of HIS choosing to replace Judas...Paul.

Mans selection was never heard from again in scripture while Gods choice went on to be the major teacher and apostle to the gentiles in the new church

84 posted on 03/09/2010 6:57:52 AM PST by RnMomof7
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