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To: Houghton M.
It also says that ordained clergy are that kind of priest but also another kind (ministerial priests, sacramental priests, derived from bishops, derived from the obvious NT special role for the Apostles WHICH WAS NOT THE SAME AS THE ROLE OF THE REST OF CHRISTIANS) which is also what the Bible says, in the same places (e.g., in Hebrews).

Why, of course the apostles had a special office. They were chosen by Jesus to be His witnesses. The criteria and purpose of that office are described by Peter in Acts 1...

"Therefore, of these men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
beginning from the baptism of John to that day when He was taken up from us, one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection."
And they proposed two: Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.
And they prayed and said, "You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen
to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place."
And they cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles.


So we see the requirements and purpose of apostleship, and we see Who chose them. It should be no puzzle, therefore, why there are no apostles today. There's nobody qualified, nor is there any need. The witnesses gave their testimony, and the Great Commission was fulfilled. We have in our possession the inspired writings of the apostles and others, and can read for ourselves the word of God.

Nor is there any need for priests to be appointed to intercede on our behalf. Nearly the entire book of Hebrews repudiates that idea, which Catholics appear to have adopted from the Old Covenant and which is now obsolete thanks to our High Priest, Who has opened the way for all of us to enter the Most Holy Place. (See esp. Hebrews 10:19-22!)

So kindly remove your obsolete priests from barring the way which Jesus Christ opened to all of us, and let His saints have that access to God which Jesus purchased with His life!

clearly you make a distinction between “priestood of all believers” and whatever this “ordained minister” category might mean.

I do?? It's news to me, since I never said any such thing. Your statement is what's commonly known as a "straw man fallacy". It fits perfectly with your false accusations which follow it...

So you no more restrict yourselves to “priesthood of all believers” than we do.

So put a sock in your proclamation that you don’t have anything other than “everyone is a priest.”


Why would a person resort to dishonest tactics like that?
147 posted on 03/10/2010 7:40:22 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Lears: “Your statement is what’s commonly known as a “straw man fallacy”

Well, looks like you are able to identify my alleged “straw-man” arguments because you are so good at them yourself:

[Lears] “So kindly remove your obsolete priests from barring the way which Jesus Christ opened to all of us”

Takes one to know one.


148 posted on 03/10/2010 7:47:52 AM PST by Houghton M.
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