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My Walloons, a man and his children and his new 2nd wife were French and came from Holland...

From the Leyden Church in Amsterdam...

A man born in Holland also arrived in NY in 1623, supposedly on the same ship..

Then my English family from Suffolk to MASS in 1630..

Then I have a man who was born in Holland and arrived here before his son was born in NY in 1631

And I have a couple who were born in Germany and arrived here before their child was born in NY in 1633..

Then the French born grown children of the man who had brought that first family and ship to the New World in 1623, arrived in New York in 1637 from Holland..

Another man born in Holland came with his parents and siblings to NY that same year, 1637..

Then I have a man born in Holland who came from the Texel in Holland to NY about 1640...

And another man born in Holland arrived in NY about 1645...

and so on...

Most from Holland and then some from France

Several had trading posts or taverns and made and sold their own beer...

One had an extremely large tobacco plantation that reached into present day Central Park...

One was banned from the colony for selling liquer to Indians..

One was a crook who was whipped and imprisoned...

and one was made a slave at age seven to pay for the father’s crimes...and sold from one owner to another ...and went on to overcome that early horrible start to be rich and prosperous...

The New World...my bloodlines...

I’m proud of them all...though some I could do without...

I have seven ancestors on the Holland Society list...

i have DIRECT bloodlines that men would kill for...

But i cant join the Holland society...

You have to be a male...

But the ancestors can just be related to the men who came here to NY...

In other words if you are a male and the brother or uncle or cousin or nephew of your direct ancestor was the one to come here...

but your actual ancestor didnt...

you can be a member of the Holland Society...

a kick in the teeth...

The funny thing is they expanded the rules to attract morfe members but still just males...

The women ???

Oh we can join the Holland Dames ...which is set up more likme an axilary of the Holland Society than an actual genealogical society...

In other words it supports the males over in the Holland Society but doesnt really acknowledge the lineage of its members...

though the exorborant dues are the same...

I can join the Dutch Settlers of Albany which is more exclusive anfd a whole lot cheaper...