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To: kosta50; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl; Quix; 185JHP; 230FMJ; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; ...
No, this life matters. We can make it a lot nicer than we have been.

Oh really? In what way? Care to share the details of what we have to look forward to, dear kosta — in your imagination of a better life? [Your statement seems to me somehow in contradistinction to the idea of "life more abundantly," FWIW.]

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Why [would] there be anything in this world that God dislikes if everything is according to his will?

Because in His wisdom He created, not only the universe — which He declared "very good," not "perfect" BTW; but He also created man — part and participant in the universe — as a bearer of "sovereign" free will in himself individually. Man takes the responsibility for what happens after this. Christ comes to redeem him from the wreckage he creates. Man accepts or rejects the divine sacrifice. That's what Judgment Day is all about. In between, there is human history, personal and social....

So, I'm really looking forward to seeing your plans for "a better human future."

102 posted on 04/06/2010 3:35:14 PM PDT by betty boop (The personal is not the public's business. See: the Ninth Amendment.)
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To: betty boop

Those who accept eternal life look for happiness and perfection in God; in the Kingdom of God. Those who think there is no eternal existence can only look to this mortal world for happiness, so they want to try to make this world as “perfect” as possible (noteworthy that various ideas of what constitutes “happiness” often are contradictory).

The attempt to make this life “heaven on earth” has caused and will cause more misery than any single other idea or philosophy. A subset of this is the fact that there is alwasy one or more segments of people who will not want to go along with the “let’s make earth better and maybe even perfect” so of course those who don’t want to go along with the plan have to be subjegated, re-educated or killed. Just to make everyone happy, of course.


104 posted on 04/06/2010 4:00:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: betty boop; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl; MarkBsnr; Quix; 185JHP; 230FMJ; Albion Wilde; ...
In what way? Care to share the details of what we have to look forward to, dear kosta — in your imagination of a better life?

Sure. Be nice to each other. Do no harm. Recognize that everyone is a citizen of this earth. Respect and consideration go a long way. We could have a world without fear or wars. It's a matter of choice. It's not that we can't make this world a paradise, we don't want to.

Man takes the responsibility for what happens after this. Christ comes to redeem him from the wreckage he creates

Was man's fall according to God's will or not? Are you sauggesting that God does not exercise control over things but is forced to "fix" things? It is a very unhappy God you are describing.

Christ comes to redeem him from the wreckage he creates. Man accepts or rejects the divine sacrifice. That's what Judgment Day is all about

If you do something right, you don't have to constantly fix it.

So, I'm really looking forward to seeing your plans for "a better human future."

What future? I am talking this life, here and now. That's what matters. If you are good in this life you won't have to worry about the next life or the Judgment Day. Yes, we can have a better world, if we choose to. Humans don't have to be inhuman. But they choose to be.

125 posted on 04/06/2010 8:41:56 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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