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To: D-fendr
You can't be more than an animal?

No, just what God had made me.

Your view of your self is so low it's depressing

How haughty of you.

Even if all you care about is yourself, you will lose that too, eventually.

And even if you pretend to care for the whole world you will too.

Pain and pleasure, love and suffering are a package deal.

It's part of reality, but they don't have to be fifty-fifty, nor am I under any obligation to desire pain and suffering in order to be human.

The only way to avoid it is to not care about anything or anyone.

That doesn't mean you have to desire pain and suffering. And, yes, normal human desire is to avoid them as much as possible because they are "feel bad."

A masochist likes pain, humans realize that it sometimes is the price of caring

[pain = truth] It isn't equal, it comes with it.

It does? God is pain and suffering then? And here I thought God was comfort and hope...

You can avoid it, ignore it, pretend you are too smart to believe it, but that has its own price.

I don't know about you, but I prefer bargains. You may desire to pay the full price. I suppose that's a form of "feels good" too. :)

282 posted on 04/23/2010 11:07:04 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50
No, just what God had made me… God is pain and suffering then? And here I thought God was comfort and hope...

I was talking about being human; you're still looking to fight about God - which you no longer believe in. Must those who do not believe in God throw away all their values too? No God, no Good? Isn't that religious thinking, no longer yours?

Sometimes, we remain still trapped in what we thought we left behind. If we're still throwing rocks at it, we haven't really let it go yet.

You may desire to pay the full price.

You aren't the first who thought he could get without giving - or the first to discover that deal isn't offered.

283 posted on 04/23/2010 11:27:21 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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