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To: D-fendr
But there are, the really hard choices, and there is no feel good at all, not in the doing, not in the result, nothing feel good about it

Give me an example. I think in that case we are forced to make the choice, but if it were up to our own devices we would not.

I am thinking of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane on the night he was arrested. He submits to the will of the Father, but that's not his will. It's not his choice.

whether we choose what's right because it feels good or whether it feels good because it's right solely depends on how you look at it, whatever prejudice (in the larger sense) or worldview you have.

Well, yes, I agree.

350 posted on 04/29/2010 11:23:57 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50

Jesus in the garden is an ok example. I think it might work, but would take more thought. Worth coming back to, but I’d like a brief side-tour, if it’s ok.

One I’ve been thinking of:

A guy goes off to fight for an “Ideal”. Months later, he ends up face to face with it: He can fight and surely die (assume no guarantee of success in the battle, or even certain failure).

He can run, safely. Or he can stay, fight and die. Some just like him, do each.

Now the twist: In your view, are each “equal”? Are each making the only choice each can make? And therefore, in your view, acting on the same choice, on the same criteria (feels good), and that choice neither objectively better?

In a fashion I’m asking: A) Is it all hardwired and predetermined; B) Does either really have a “choice”?


351 posted on 04/30/2010 12:45:46 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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