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To: kosta50
Bell's theorem is just that, a theorem, not a fact.

Experiments in the real world are used to test it. THAT was the point.

Our measurements are as good as the precision (and errors) of our instruments

Another "duh." Doesn't change the point of the accuracy of math - given the precision of the measurement of quantity.

The wave particle issue has to do with our inadequate mathematical models.

What? Are you now re-writing the science of light? Your "theory" here is novel.Quantum theory is still theory, not a fact

A theory that works in a multitude of devices you use every day.

that it reflects or describes the real world.

It works precisely because it reflects the real world. Remember, I'm the one who posted the initial point about models.

Facts must be provable or else they are not facts.

I AM talking about proof. Are you off trying to deny mathematical proof now? Math does not make reality "real" but rather the observed reality makes math real.

Uh, without the real world, there's no math. Ok. You do believe 2+2=4, right?

60 posted on 04/11/2010 8:54:07 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
A theory that works in a multitude of devices you use every day

So does Ptolemaic navigational system

It works precisely because it reflects the real world

Working models do not represent reality. Ptolemaic navgiational system being a perfect example.

I AM talking about proof. Are you off trying to deny mathematical proof now?

Facts have to be provable against reality. Otherwise they are not facts.

You do believe 2+2=4, right?

No I don't believe it, I KNOW it. No faith required here.

62 posted on 04/11/2010 10:15:48 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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