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To: D-fendr
How do you know in this case? Did you get 2,688 eggs

No, but I can buy them. I can also use 2,688 pebbles instead of eggs, and arrange them in groups of 12 each, then count the number of groups.

Luckily we invented shortcuts to physical counting, but if anyone doubts, the longer method is always available.

You haven't proven that empirically

I just have. But you are more than welcome to buy 244 dozen eggs and start counting. You don't have to take my word for it. You don't have to take my word for gravity either. A 20th flood seems like good starting point...to think about it on the way down. :)

You denied a "real-world" counterpart to polynomial equations I referenced earlier

Where is the real world application to those polynomial equations. Polynomials are used in optical design all the time, but their real-world counterpart can be carried only to two or three terms in a string of theoretically infinite number of terms. That is hardly a real-world counterpart, but an ideal real world appoximation.

An ideal is not a real-world counterpart but a fantasy. The perfect celestial spheres concept went out with Galileo. Of course, the Church was trying to tell him that the Moon was really unblemished and perfect, and that the devil (!) was distorting his view to make him think celestial bodies were imperfect. Why let reality get in the way of a perfectly concocted fantasy, right?

Do you multiply 12 times 224 or 224 times 12? Does it matter? How do you know? Empirically.

Sometimes I think sophism is a disease.

78 posted on 04/12/2010 3:29:43 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50
No, but I can buy them. I can also use 2,688 pebbles instead of eggs, and arrange them in groups of 12 each, then count the number of groups.

When you do so, get back to me and accurately claim you've proven it empirically.

But you are more than welcome to buy 244 dozen eggs and start counting. You don't have to take my word for it.

I'm fine with math proofs, you're the one that needs to count everything each time.

Where is the real world application to those polynomial equations.

The same place as your eggs and pebbles. Give it up, you failed algebra, didn't you?

The perfect celestial spheres concept went out with Galileo.

As, I suppose, did the concept of the perfect distance measurement. So you can't really go a mile - in the real world. Sophism, yes.

And again: Do you multiply 12 times 224 or 224 times 12? Does it matter? How do you know? Empirically.

Serious question. Try an answer not avoidance.

81 posted on 04/12/2010 4:51:37 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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