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To: NYer

The folded napkin (soudarion ) is why I pay no attention to the artificial hoopla about the Shroud of Turin. If any man was actually buried in that thing, we can be sure it wasn’t Jesus of Nazareth.


4 posted on 04/09/2010 9:47:34 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: thulldud

How is that?


6 posted on 04/09/2010 10:09:20 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: thulldud

Please expand.


7 posted on 04/09/2010 10:31:17 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: thulldud; NYer
The Gospel of Luke and the Gospel of John mention more than one linen cloth: "But Peter rising up, ran to the sepulchre, and stooping down, he saw the linen cloths laid by themselves; and went away wondering in himself at that which was come to pass" (Luke 24: 12).

"Then cometh Simon Peter, following him, and went into the sepulchre, and saw the linen cloths lying, and the napkin that had been about his head, not lying with the linen cloths, but apart, wrapped up into one place" (John 20: 6-7).

Also, there is the lesser-known Sudarium of Oviedo

8 posted on 04/09/2010 10:34:33 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: thulldud
Was the napkin used on the inside or outside of the shroud? Is there archaeological evidence of what would have been the tradition?
9 posted on 04/09/2010 10:34:59 AM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government.)
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To: thulldud

the stains on the Shroud totally match the Sudarium. The Sudarium’s history is very well documented. The Sudarium gives the Shroud even more credibility.


10 posted on 04/09/2010 10:43:57 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: thulldud

The “napkin” didn’t cover the face, though. It was tied under the chin to keep the mouth closed.


12 posted on 04/09/2010 11:43:17 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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