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JESUS LIVING IN MARY: HANDBOOK, SPIRITUALITY OF ST. LOUIS DE MONTFORT, ROSARY [Ecumenical]
EWTN.com ^ | Handbook-1994 | St. Louis Mary de Montfort

Posted on 04/28/2010 2:38:54 PM PDT by Salvation

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I know this is long, but it's a good read.
1 posted on 04/28/2010 2:38:55 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Religion Moderator; All
This is a Catholic Caucus thread.


Guidelines for Catholic Caucus Threads


2 posted on 04/28/2010 2:39:57 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Awesome! Thank you so much for making it a Caucus thread!


3 posted on 04/28/2010 2:42:31 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Salvation
Yes, thanks for the Caucus. I was going to pick up (or look for at home) The Secret of the Rosary, but I think I shall just read this thread instead!!

Thanks again ...
4 posted on 04/28/2010 2:47:21 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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5 posted on 04/28/2010 2:48:38 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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At La Rochelle, a Protestant town, it seems that Montfort showed particular zeal for the Rosary; he preached his first three missions there, in the church of the Dominicans, during the summer of 1711. According to Besnard, "The apostle of the Rosary . . . used this heavenly devotion very advantageously to convert the Protestants, who had based some of their false doctrines on the Albigensian heresy. He left the controversies to those whom the Bishop had designated for this ministry, and dedicated himself to stimulating devotion to the Holy Rosary, and to explaining the mysteries that are called to mind at the beginning of each decade."18 The conversion of an important Protestant woman, Madame de Mailly, "caused a great sensation and convinced several people who were hesitant." It was specifically stated that "until her death in 1749, she was faithful to the daily recitation of the Rosary"19 ....

....We might add that in the context of the Counter-Reformation, the Rosary appeared like a sign and a providential weapon against "heretics," very similar to how it had been used by Saint Dominic against the Cathars....

The above is not appropriate for a Catholic Caucus. Ecumenical thread, maybe, but not caucus material.

6 posted on 04/28/2010 2:49:03 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy; Religion Moderator

This is historical. It does not distract from the Catholic Caucus, in my opinion.


7 posted on 04/28/2010 2:53:15 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy; Religion Moderator
The above is not appropriate for a Catholic Caucus. Ecumenical thread, maybe, but not caucus material.

Are you a moderator? If not, please address your problem to the Moderator. Otherwise, this is a Catholic Caucus thread. If you are not Catholic, please leave the thread.

8 posted on 04/28/2010 3:08:03 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

I first made this consecration on the feast of the Assumption a few years ago. I renew it every year. What a treasure!

Johnnette Benkovic, one of my favorite people, introduced this to us at a Women of Grace retreat.


9 posted on 04/28/2010 3:47:11 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: PatriotGirl827; Judith Anne; dsc

“”I renew it every year””

I do also,at Adoration I repeat it sometimes as well

The words of consecration are:

O Eternal and incarnate Wisdom! O sweetest and most adorable Jesus! True God and true man, only Son of the Eternal Father, and of Mary, always virgin! I adore Thee profoundly in the bosom and splendors of Thy Father during eternity; and I adore Thee also in the virginal bosom of Mary, Thy most worthy Mother, in the time of Thine incarnation.

I give Thee thanks for that Thou hast annihilated Thyself, taking the form of a slave in order to rescue me from the cruel slavery of the devil. I praise and glorify Thee for that Thou hast been pleased to submit Thyself to Mary, Thy holy Mother, in all things, in order to make me Thy faithful slave through her. But, alas! Ungrateful and faithless as I have been, I have not kept the promises which I made so solemnly to Thee in my Baptism; I have not fulfilled my obligations; I do not deserve to be called Thy child, nor yet Thy slave; and as there is nothing in me which does not merit Thine anger and Thy repulse, I dare not come by myself before Thy most holy and august Majesty. It is on this account that I have recourse to the intercession of Thy most holy Mother, whom Thou hast given me for a mediatrix with Thee. It is through her that I hope to obtain of Thee contrition, the pardon of my sins, and the acquisition and preservation of wisdom.

Hail, then, O immaculate Mary, living tabernacle of the Divinity, where the Eternal Wisdom willed to be hidden and to be adored by angels and by men! Hail, O Queen of Heaven and earth, to whose empire everything is subject which is under God. Hail, O sure refuge of sinners, whose mercy fails no one. Hear the desires which I have of the Divine Wisdom; and for that end receive the vows and offerings which in my lowliness I present to thee.

I, N_____, a faithless sinner, renew and ratify today in thy hands the vows of my Baptism; I renounce forever Satan, his pomps and works; and I give myself entirely to Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Wisdom, to carry my cross after Him all the days of my life, and to be more faithful to Him than I have ever been before. In the presence of all the heavenly court I choose thee this day for my Mother and Mistress. I deliver and consecrate to thee, as thy slave, my body and soul, my goods, both interior and exterior, and even the value of all my good actions, past, present and future; leaving to thee the entire and full right of disposing of me, and all that belongs to me, without exception, according to thy good pleasure, for the greater glory of God in time and in eternity.

Receive, O benignant Virgin, this little offering of my slavery, in honor of, and in union with, that subjection which the Eternal Wisdom deigned to have to thy maternity; in homage to the power which both of you have over this poor sinner, and in thanksgiving for the privileges with which the Holy Trinity has favored thee. I declare that I wish henceforth, as thy true slave, to seek thy honor and to obey thee in all things.

O admirable Mother, present me to thy dear Son as His eternal slave, so that as He has redeemed me by thee, by thee He may receive me! O Mother of mercy, grant me the grace to obtain the true Wisdom of God; and for that end receive me among those whom thou lovest and teachest, whom thou leadest, nourishest and protectest as thy children and thy slaves.

O faithful Virgin, make me in all things so perfect a disciple, imitator and slave of the Incarnate Wisdom, Jesus Christ thy Son, that I may attain, by thine intercession and by thine example, to the fullness of His age on earth and of His glory in Heaven. Amen.


Sign your name here.


10 posted on 04/28/2010 4:43:23 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi

Maybe you can help me with this! I love the St. Louis de Montfort consecration, and I pledge it with all my heart. The problem for me is, during the course of my daily, hectic life, I forget to live it out.

I also want to gain a deeper understanding of it. St. Louis is very deep and profound. Do you have any suggestions for incorporating this special sprituality?


11 posted on 04/28/2010 5:07:37 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: Salvation
The Rosary kept me sane for years and years (decades actually) while I did battle with an inner-ear "gift." I would time my vertigo attacks by how many rosaries it would take from start to finish. One cannot continue to sin with intent while reciting the Rosary this frequently and I even received "no penance" once, but my husband comically claims malarkey.:) I liked the following regarding St. Louis;
"In 1699, he made a pilgrimage to Chartres with some students of the Seminary of Saint-Sulpice. When they spoke, they spoke only about Our Lady; when they prayed together, they recited the rosary, said their breviary and sang hymns from the Psalm Book of Saint Bonaventure." [emphasis; mine]
I agree with him; there is nothing important to say that is more important than prayer. LOVED this thread a lot, Salvation. Thank you!

Our Online Rosary Site
12 posted on 04/28/2010 5:11:35 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the thread and the caucus.


13 posted on 04/28/2010 5:24:48 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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The late Blessed Father John Hardon is helpful about this. He was a gifted Marian Catechist

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Mariology/Mariology_043.htm

Excerpt..
Finally, consecration to Mary means confiding in Mary. Sharing with Mary one’s thoughts and desires, and I should add one’s fears.

Consecration to Mary means (let me tell the three of you) it means talking to Mary. Let me change the sentence. It means talking with Mary. You never talk to Mary—hear it—without her talking, shall I say, back to you.

Consecration to Mary means not only loving Mary, but telling her in the deepest sense in which these three monosyllables can be used; “I love you!” And in saying these words all that we are doing is what we are sure Jesus, many times, how many times, in plain simple Aramaic told his mother, I love you.


14 posted on 04/28/2010 5:58:08 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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That is excellent - exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

I didn’t know Fr. Hardon was Blessed now!! When did that happen?


15 posted on 04/28/2010 6:29:41 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me, a sinner)
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I didn’t know Fr. Hardon was Blessed now!! When did that happen?

Well... He is not been Sainted yet,but he does hold a special place in my heart and in my life. I hope he will be a canonized Saint soon

I wish you a Blessed Evening!

16 posted on 04/28/2010 7:04:39 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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He [Fr. Hardon] is not been Sainted yet,but he does hold a special place in my heart and in my life ...

Mother Teresa thought fondly of him as well. I'm very happy to hear he is Blessed. I didn't know that. I love his writings and quote them often, along with Blessed Mother Teresa's.

Letter to my husband: My Letter from Mother Teresa
17 posted on 04/28/2010 7:47:46 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Salvation; All

Y’all have absolutely no idea what a joyous blessing this thread is to me, a brand-new Catholic, and how all of you with your ideas and experiences about the Rosary lift me up. You are all great. Especially you, Salvation (big hug!)

(I can’t believe this is happening, it’s so wonderful.)


18 posted on 04/28/2010 8:22:35 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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Protestants, who had based some of their false doctrines on the Albigensian heresy

This phrase alone disqualifies the article for a caucus because the non-member, in this case Protestants, has an interest in speaking for himself.

I will change the label to "ecumenical" to disallow antagonism.

19 posted on 04/28/2010 8:27:07 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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Protestants, who had based some of their false doctrines on the Albigensian heresy

From Philip Schaff's HISTORY of the CHRISTIAN CHURCH, volume 5, chapter 10:

In Southern France they were called Albigenses, from the town of Albi, one of the centres of their strength. From the territory in Eastern Europe, whence their theological tenets were drawn, they were known as Bulgari, Bugares, or Bugres.968 Other titles were given to them in France, such as Tessarants, Textores, from their strength among the weavers and industrial classes, or Publicani and Poplicani, a corruption of Paulicians.969

It was the general belief of the age that the Cathari derived their doctrinal views from heretical sects of Eastern Europe and the Orient, such as the Paulicians and Bogomili. This was brought out in the testimony of members of the sect at their trials, and it has in its favor the official recognition which leaders from Eastern Europe, Bosnia, and Constantinople gave to the Western heretics. The Paulicians had existed since the fifth century in Asia Minor, and had pushed their way to Constantinople.970 The Bogomili, who were of later origin, had a position of some prominence in Constantinople in the early part of the twelfth century.971 It is also possible that seeds of Manichaean and Arian heresy were left in Italy and Southern France after these systems were supposed to be stamped out in those regions.

The Paulicians rejected the Old Testament and taught a strict dualism. The Bogomili held to the Sabellian Trinity, rejected the eucharist, and substituted for baptism with water a ritual of prayer and the imposition of hands. Marriage they pronounced an unclean relationship. The worship of images and the use of the cross were discarded.

From the article on Catharism at Wikipedia
Like many medieval movements, there were various schools of thought and practice amongst the Cathari; some were dualistic (believing in a God of Good and a God of Evil), others Gnostic, some closer to orthodoxy while abstaining from an acceptance of Roman Catholicism[citation needed]. The dualist theology was the most prominent, however, and was based upon the complete incompatibility of love and power. As matter was seen as a manifestation of power, it was also incompatible with love. They did not believe in one all-encompassing god, but in two, both equal and comparable in status. They held that the physical world was evil and created by Rex Mundi (translated from Latin as "king of the world"), who encompassed all that was corporeal, chaotic and powerful; the second god, the one whom they worshipped, was entirely disincarnate: a being or principle of pure spirit and completely unsullied by the taint of matter. He was the god of love, order and peace.

According to some Cathars, the purpose of man's life on Earth was to transcend matter, perpetually renouncing anything connected with the principle of power and thereby attained union with the principle of love. According to others, man's purpose was to reclaim or redeem matter, spiritualising and transforming it.

This placed them at odds with the Catholic Church in regarding material creation, on behalf of which Jesus had died, as intrinsically evil and implying that God, whose word had created the world in the beginning, was a usurper. Furthermore, as the Cathars saw matter as intrinsically evil, they denied that Jesus could become incarnate and still be the son of God. Cathars vehemently repudiated the significance of the crucifixion and the cross. In fact, to the Cathars, Rome's opulent and luxurious Church seemed a palpable embodiment and manifestation on Earth of Rex Mundi's sovereignty.

See also the article Albigensian Crusade, at Wikipedia

20 posted on 04/28/2010 8:54:03 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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