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1 in 40 people say they have been abducted by aliens or have seen UFOs, that’s a lot of people to tell “you’re wrong” to. Everyone worldwide who has ever encountered one of these “beings” have described the same scenario, the same look to the “beings”, that being oval shaped heads, huge dark eyes, and most say they have had an extreme sense of unease, evil, torment, suffering. How can you just stamp wrong or crazy on thousands of people that have never met, who have all described in detail the same scenario, the world over? I’d say that is some pretty hard evidence, whatever the cause, aliens/demons, these beings are malignant to mankind.

I am an engineer. I believe in God. I do not believe in aliens. If aliens exist in the physical universe, then they can be proven in the physical universe. 1 out of 40 people in the United States is also a member of a stark staring raving cult. So? Does that make cults believeable?

I’m saying that there are not aliens, but demons. Interfering with the world, deceiving many souls, why couldn’t demons visit the earthly plane and deceive the eyes of men? I don’t understand, you believe in God, but refute that “aliens/UFO’s/abductions could be demonic” in presence.

MB, in your engineering studies, where have you found adequate identification of the spirit-body problem to properly frame any query into the separation of the physical universe from the spiritual domain?

I haven’t, but then again perhaps I’ve been scarred in my engineering education by assuming everything we were studying comprised the physical domain and unless the spiritual domain could justifiably integrated into the physical domain, it didn’t exist.

Yet, I also know from faith in Christ and from experience, that domain is very real. I am not appealing to experience for its justification, but I would have to deny real experience to ignore the spiritual domain.

I also know some spiritual persons, with very real character and perception, and volition, can effect physical force by their choosing, while not fully perceptible to us in all our senses.

IMHO, I suspect it might be a leap of justification to conclude these “aliens” are fallen angels, but such an identification is consistent with many reports of their behavior and circumstances surrounding experiences of them.