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Welcome the Stranger (Catholic theology & Church history against illegals)
Inside Catholic ^ | 5/5/2010 | John Zmirack

Posted on 05/05/2010 7:03:51 PM PDT by markomalley

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Pity it takes a member of the laity to point this out.

Greater pity that none of our shepherds (or their staffers) will read it.

1 posted on 05/05/2010 7:03:51 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

....[Blessed] Augustine, for instance, wanted the barbarians kept out...

That says it all, doesn’t it?


2 posted on 05/05/2010 7:10:39 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: markomalley

Beautiful post indeed! Thank You.


3 posted on 05/05/2010 7:16:42 PM PDT by J Edgar
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The US has always needed/wanted the hard working Mexicans (no people work like them!) to do all the hard labor that Americans don’t want to do (and are not cutout for anymore.). Therefore,the policy of the US with regard to Mexicans has always been to scare them, so that they won’t come here, because if they knew that they could come hear, they would all come. This way they only get the ones that are intrepid enough to come, the young and the strong.

The anti- Mexicans immigration thing, it’s all a show to scare the Mexicans! Then every 10 years they give them amnesty and let them stay.

The problem is not with those that come, the problem is that once their children are raised here, they get together with the rotten apples here, learn, and become just like all the other criminals in the hood.


4 posted on 05/05/2010 7:23:48 PM PDT by Leoni
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The US has always needed/wanted the hard working Mexicans (no people work like them!)

You ignore American history and it's people, and you evidently have not looked at Mexico.

5 posted on 05/05/2010 7:31:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: markomalley

A very powerful and persuasive article. The leftists inside and outside the Church try to brow-beat opponents of unchecked illegal immigration as racists and nativists. But supporters of a unified national culture have an ally the left didn’t count on: the late Pope John Paul II. As I wrote in a recent article at www.intellectualconservative.com:

Conservative and patriotic American Catholics need not feel ashamed of loving their country and wanting to protect and preserve her institutions and culture. This is neither racist nor nationalistic. It is entirely proper. In his book Memory and Identity, the late Holy Father Pope John Paul II referred to patriotism as “a love for everything to do with our native land: its history, its traditions, its language, and its natural features.” Concomitant with that love of country goes a desire to protect and preserve it as the Church Herself protects, preserves, and hands on the Deposit of Faith. Theologically speaking, he described a healthy patriotism as an example of fidelity to the Fourth Commandment of the Decalogue “which obliges us to honor our father and mother.” Clearly American Catholics can express their patriotism by opposing amnesty consistent with magisterial teaching.


6 posted on 05/05/2010 7:54:53 PM PDT by Freedomlibertyjustice
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Leoni
You are so off the mark in your comments and so misinformed rather than insult you I will make one simple reply to point out to you just one of the many misnomers you iterated , pertaining to the U.S. need for Mexicans to fill jobs that Americans won’t do. When I left high school and was unsure of the direction I might take for my future my first job out of school was a landscaping job, and then I moved onto plumbers helper.
Believing it was my All American duty to service my country I entered the service to serve in Vietnam, and then planned on returning to becoming a Journeyman Plumber. Two unfortunate and ill timed accidents while in Vietnam rendered me unable to ever return to Plumbing and so instead I took up the study of law on the G.I. bill part of the governments promise for my service. The point here is that I most probably would have been just as content being a Plumber. Lord knows I would have been making fair money. My son who is now in the same boat I was upon leaving high school can no longer find work such as I did after graduation because his willingness is their but the jobs have all been stolen by illegal immigrants who no longer pick lettuce but instead leave that type of work up to the Indio’s who also come across from deeper in Mexico while they, the opportunists work for wages that were prevalent as far back as the 1960’s in the now Latino saturated jobs of construction. Even his high school sweet heart cannot get a summer job at McDonalds because illegals have stolen the youth jobs of the part time world. So sit down study your facts somewhat more before you accuse others of things I fear you are not educated enough to truly understand.


7 posted on 05/05/2010 8:35:58 PM PDT by Minab
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To: markomalley

Yes, indeed. They are simply irrational on the subject of immigration. Mahoney is positively insane.


8 posted on 05/05/2010 9:09:47 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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Mexico has to have the worst government of a potentially rich country in the world. They have to encourage migration,. or else the people would rise up and slaughter the few thousand families that own the wealth of the country.


9 posted on 05/05/2010 9:13:58 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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Since they have no rational case, proponents of de facto open borders, such as Roger Cardinal Mahony, Archbishop Jose Gomez, and Archbishop Charles Chaput are reduced to Bible abuse. They chant, "Welcome the stranger" as if this were one of the Ten Commandments...

Ouch. That's going to leave a mark on some.

10 posted on 05/05/2010 9:15:45 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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While in college I worked for the state highway department as a rodman for a surveying crew. This was in East Texas and then only whites worked for the contractors who built roads and highways. Recently the highway department was widening a local road in my town. Every worker save the occasional heavy equipment worker was Mexican, even the foreman. No one not speaking Spanish would have been able to get a job on that crew. They have taken over almost all the construction jobs. Ironically, this cuts out the blacks as well as the Anglos, even thou the blacks are, oh, so supportive of the immigrants.
11 posted on 05/05/2010 9:21:57 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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No one not speaking Spanish would have been able to get a job on that crew.

That is true everywhere, once they get in the door, then only Mexicans will be tolerated, they will drive out whites and blacks, and then keep them out.

12 posted on 05/05/2010 9:46:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: Leoni

America should learn from Israel and built itself a wall! Best example of protecting a country’s border’s.


13 posted on 05/06/2010 3:26:35 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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Be thankful LA is getting a new Archbishop soon.


14 posted on 05/06/2010 3:28:25 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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http://www.mideastweb.org/thefence.htm

Israel’s security wall.


15 posted on 05/06/2010 3:32:20 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: RobbyS

Mahoney is a self-aggrandizing adoration seeker. Not insane, but evil. Flouting civil laws, flouting basic Church teachings — what else would you call that?


16 posted on 05/06/2010 7:19:15 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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American history is history.

Americans today are spoiled, fat, cigarette smoking, unreliable, hungover at work, don’t work on Saturdays, and complainers all day, when it comes to hard labor at say $12 an hour. A Mexican will work without any of those drawbacks.


17 posted on 05/06/2010 7:27:24 AM PDT by Leoni
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Americans today are spoiled, fat, cigarette smoking, unreliable, hungover at work, don’t work on Saturdays, and complainers all day, when it comes to hard labor at say $12 an hour. A Mexican will work without any of those drawbacks.

....they're so hard working and resourceful, that some manage to work 60-80 hour weeks without those drawbacks and dodge immgration laws at the same time!

18 posted on 05/06/2010 7:34:53 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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You miss the point completely. The point I was trying to make was that:

If you study the actual practice (not what the politicians tell you) of controlling immigration from Mexico, it has always been just a lot of scare tactics on the Mexicans (as to the danger of getting swindled, robbed, raped, and murdered on the Mexican side, AND caught and deported in the US), and then almost like every 10 year amnesty is given to the ones that make it here. You will have to conclude as I did. It's a farce! They have no intention of stopping the Mexicans from coming here.That is THE POINT.

As an aside, I doubt that Mexicans have taken more than 2% of the good jobs, versus the 98% of the good jobs that were sent overseas. I don't see the popaganda minstry (the media) or the sheep that follow the propaganda slant, complaining about that. All that is left is low paying service jobs, like McDonald's and Walmart, not because of Mexicans, but because of government regulations that are not applied against overseas manufacturers (read unfair competition), that sent US manufacturers away, or put them out of business. Greedy trade unions that finally chased business away. and greedy aberrant capitalists with only loyalty for profit. In short, the “global economy” became more important than helping your neighborhood. Now there are Chinese living a tad better (getting 3 meals a day), while our neighborhood is full of welfare recipients and potential future criminals just trying to find a dignified job. THE JOBS ARE GONE to the world.

19 posted on 05/06/2010 8:01:57 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: markomalley

Interesting analogy—makes it really simple to understand the problem.


20 posted on 05/06/2010 8:44:11 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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