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To: papertyger
Now, if a person looses his job to an illiterate Mexican who is also illiterate in English, what does that say about that person?

It doesn't say a thing about him. It DOES say something about the person doing the hiring. It says that employer wants to locate his business in America to take advantage of the numerous benefits that entails, but does not want to pay for the minimum wage expectations of American workers. When newspapers were caught by a market change... they had to come up with another distribution plan...not import Mexican kids!

That's a good response. BUT, that's not 100% or even 50%. So let me rephrase that: if an illiterate AMERICAN can take your job what does that say about your job?

It tells me that you've hung around too long in a job that anyone can fill, without progressing and improving yourself, without making yourself something indispensable. The indispensable construction workers became subs, the indispensable subs became contractors, the indispensable contractors became developers and commercial property owners.

I know an illiterate American (legal immigrant) who was not the brightest person, he had NOTHING going for him but brute strength. That person used/parlayed his quality of loyalty to the owner into a life long business. He put his children through college, owns his own home paid for, and rental units, he's up there in years now.

If you don't use the time that you have when you are young to improve yourself, when you are at the entry level jobs, that anyone can fill,WORKING FOR ANYTHING YOU CAN GET(CONSIDER IT A PAID EDUCATION!) you are going to have a rough time the rest of your life. You have to prepare yourself during the Spring and Summer of your life, or you are going to starve in the Winter.

There are two types of people working at McDonald's:

One is working and complaining about his low pay, and buying a six pack on the way home, and sitting around watching television or hanging around with his friends doing nothing.

The other is thinking to himself, these people at McDonald's are crazy, they're paying me and giving me a free education in the restaurant business. I'm going to learn everything there is about this business here, hands on, instead of paying a trade school.

Who do you think is going to succeed?

32 posted on 05/07/2010 5:57:56 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni

“Who is going to succeed” is not the issue here. Gaming “the market” is.

The simple fact is we have many business owners that love the market when supply and demand is in their favor, but think they are entitled to cheat when it tilts against them.

How many years did car dealerships try to get away with paying highly trained automotive technichians like they were the relatively unskilled “grease monkeys” of the previous generation?

I am not attributing this duplicity to you personally, but there are more than a few who talk just like you that will haughtily disdain the unpaid intern for quitting when the only task they’re given is a summer’s worth of scut-work that teaches them nothing after the first ten minutes.

Any fair minded individual knows the kid was getting hosed by someone misusing the practice of internship, but because the employer doesn’t have to justify himself to anyone but himself, he excuses his own deceitfulness by blaming the kid’s lack of work ethic.

Bottom line: The only excuse for hiring Mexicans is having your business located in Mexico. Anything else is an attempt to cheat the labor market.


33 posted on 05/07/2010 8:00:17 AM PDT by papertyger (tyranny long endured does not equal law . . .)
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