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1 posted on 05/09/2010 8:03:40 AM PDT by truthfinder9
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How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden? If I recall correctly ( and I might not be), the Bible doesn’t start counting his age until he leaves the Garden.


2 posted on 05/09/2010 8:15:23 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies. Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: truthfinder9
See Gerald Schroeder for Genesis and the Big Bang.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

3 posted on 05/09/2010 8:19:46 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: truthfinder9

The universe did not exist at all until I was born because it is all in my mind.
So the universe is less than 50 years old.


6 posted on 05/09/2010 8:28:44 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: truthfinder9
So the trees and grass created on day three, waited a loooonnngg time for the light to appear. I like the way this attempts to put the miracles of God in a box. Why can't God make trees already bearing fruit?

I have more respect for an atheist who does not believe than a supposed BELIEVER who tries to fit what the Bible says to make it agreeable to the atheist.
7 posted on 05/09/2010 8:31:58 AM PDT by jps098
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It's not easy to remember sometimes words mean "things." Yes, plural. And God means these things literally and metaphorically in the same breath. The earth could be both 6,000 years old and 15 billion years old based on the definition of whose time it is being defined by.

Think about this, God can not lie. It's one of the things God CAN NOT do. (John 2:19) When Yeshua, said if you tear down this temple I will rebuild it in three days, we understand him metaphorically, he was talking about himself. Defining "Temple" as himself. However, he was standing next to The "Jewish Temple" when he made this statement those around him laughed because they took him to mean the "Jewish Temple." Stones...

Here's where 'words mean things' gets really interesting. Yeshua claimed to be God, if people tore down that stone Jewish temple could God have rebuilt in three days?

Words mean things.

9 posted on 05/09/2010 8:34:55 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: truthfinder9

bttt

More: http://biologos.org/


11 posted on 05/09/2010 8:36:20 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obama: Let's Pursue Reparations Through Legislation Rather Than the Courts)
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To: truthfinder9

The 6 Days 
of Creation

Gen 1:11, 12, 21, 24, 25; 1 Cor15:38, 39 Everything multiplies "after its own kind"

Life forms are in a continual state of transition.

Day 1

Light

Gen 1:3-19 Light was created before the sun. No light existed before the sun.
Day 2

Firmament

Gen 1:2 Oceans were created before land.
Gen 1:7 Atmosphere between two hydrospheres
Land existed before oceans.

Atmosphere & hydrosphere contiguous.

Day 3

Plants, Trees

Gen 1:11 First life was land plants
Gen 1:11, 20, 21 Fruit trees were created before fishes.
Gen 1:11-19 Plant life was created before the sun.
First life began in the waters.

Fishes existed before fruit trees.

Plants evolved after the sun.

Day 4

Sun, Moon, Stars

Gen 1:14-19 The sun & stars were created after the earth.
Gen 1:16 Stars were all created at once.
Sun & stars existed before the earth.
Stars evolved at different times.
Day 5

Creeping beings, Birds, Fishes, Whales

Gen 1:20, 21 Marine life was created all at once.
Gen 1:20, 21 Birds & fishes were created on the same day.
Gen 1:20-31 Birds & whales were created before reptiles.
Marine life developed gradually, from an organic blob.

Fishes evolved hundreds of millions of years before birds.

Reptiles evolved before birds & whales.

Day 6

Beasts, Man

Gen 2:7 Man was made from the dust of the earth.
Gen 2:5 Man was created before rain.
Gen 2:21, 22 Man was created, then woman.
Man evolved from monkeys.

Rain existed before man.

Woman preceded man.


12 posted on 05/09/2010 8:41:57 AM PDT by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: truthfinder9

I have always believed that the universe and the earth are hundreds of billions of years old. I believe tht dinosaurs and others roamed the earth tens of millions of years before human beings did. There were neandertals and other forerunners of our species.

I also believe that God created everything. Seven Days? What is time to Him that created it? Why do we always feel the need to limit God in such a way that we, a puny insignificant speck can understand Him?

Frankly I don’t WANT a God that I can understand. If God is so limited that even I, a high school drop-out can look at His creation and say “Yeah I can see where you were goin’ with that” then folks, we are in a s**t load of trouble.


13 posted on 05/09/2010 8:42:14 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


26 posted on 05/09/2010 9:32:27 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: truthfinder9
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

I don't see how God could call His creation 'very good' if there were millions and millions of dead (and extinct) animals in the past.

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

These are clearly 24 hour days.
By holding this position the advocate claims that the record of nature is just as reliable as the Word of God, which is false.
There are so many more issues that are wrong or inconsistent with God's Word with this belief as well.

JB
31 posted on 05/09/2010 11:20:18 AM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: truthfinder9

So do you believe there were approximately 2000 years from Adam to Noah...were those real “years” in the Genesis genealogies?


36 posted on 05/09/2010 4:50:16 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: truthfinder9

“Science tells us the earth is ~4.5 x 10^9 years old. The universe is ~14 x 10^9 years old.”

How about “the earth appears to be...”

The precision of nature argues, incontrovertably, that it was engineered and designed.


41 posted on 05/09/2010 6:20:45 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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bflr


52 posted on 05/09/2010 11:15:34 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: truthfinder9

Biblical hermeneutics / Hebrew semantics fail.


80 posted on 05/10/2010 6:53:41 PM PDT by Fichori ('Wee-Weed Up' pitchfork wielding neolithic caveman villager with lit torch. Any questions?)
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To: truthfinder9; Jeremiah Jr; null and void; Yehuda
And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. (Genesis 1:5) •And God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. (Genesis 1:8) •And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. (Genesis 1:13) •And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. (Genesis 1:19) •And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. (Genesis 1:23) •And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. (Genesis 1:31) The actual number of words in Hebrew is much fewer than that of the English translations. The words "and there was" are not in the Hebrew, but added to make the English flow better. The actual translation is "evening and morning 'n' day." There is no way to discern from the context that the text is referring to 24 hour days.

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Vayehi erev, vayehi boqer...

Gen 1:13

Meanwhile...

Until Erev boqer, 2003 from a sign/signal/letter...

86 posted on 05/10/2010 11:32:21 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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