Posted on 05/13/2010 10:14:39 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles
Show me a “Christian” who doesn’t think Jews should convert, and I’ll show you a “Christian” that isn’t.
The modern nation called “Israel” has nothing to do with the nation of Israel spoken of in the Bible.
Today’s “Israel” is not a theocracy in any form.
Sloth, I’m amazed at how many don’t understand these words.
Part 3 - Balaam's Parables
Part 4 - In the Last Days
Part 5 - The Doctrine of Balaam
Jews need to convert- they actually need to believe in Moses so they can believe in Jesus! see John 5:46
Do you believe that the re constitution of the Jewish state after almost two thousand years is of no prophetic significance? check out Ezekiel 36-37
Show me a "Christian" who thinks Jews should convert and I'll show you an antisemite.
Very simple and very fundamental stuff.
Jews gave us the NEW TESTAMENT they did not convert to anything, they embraced the Knowledge of Love, Forgiveness for SINS and GOD that stated all can come forward and have a relationship with the Father by the Blood of the Lamb...
Born Again...Not of the flesh but the SPirit
To the Jew first then the Gentile....
Some Jews believe this and some don’t
Some Gentile believe this and some don’t
Jews will not be saved until they come to God through Christ.
Very simple and fundamental stuff, anti-Christian.
When Jesus Christ returns to this earth, he is going to plant his feet on the ground, not in Chicago nor San Diego, nor New York City, but in Jerusalem Israel.....
Walking through the *EAST GATE*
What about Jews who believe in Yashua Messiah? Are they anti-semites too?
And GOD will’s will show many Torah Observant Jews that the one they have been waiting for is the one that came to the Jew First....
Yeshua Ha-Mashiach.......
Matthew 21:9
Jesus was in the center of the procession, and the people all around him were shouting, “Praise God for the Son of David! Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the LORD! Praise God in highest heaven!”
I plan to meet Him in the air (I Thess. 4:16-17), not on the ground.
I hope to as well....:)
“The modern nation called “Israel” has nothing to do with the nation of Israel spoken of in the Bible.”
Except for being the descendants of Abraham to whom the land was promised by God Himself, you mean.
I don’t disagree with the need to for Jews to know Christ, but God’s promise stands, and the land is theirs. Period.
40 years ago when I was a teenager a wild-eyed anti-Semite said those exact words to me in the back of a city bus.
Very simple and very fundamental stuff.
That is not true. In fact, that's an absolute slur against Christians. And I'm actually of 100% Jewish descent on both sides (although agnostic). So I have credibility to call you anti-Christian.
There is nothing inherently anti-semitic about a Christian thinking a Jew should convert. That is part of the Christian religion. They believe that one can only come to heaven through Jesus Christ. Their belief is that the Jews had their own separate pathway to Heaven through good works and sacrifices, but once the temple was destroyed, the Jews could not sacrifice things anymore.
Therefore, they believe that the only way that Jews can reach heaven is through Jesus. That is not anti-semitic. They're not saying that Jews are bad people. If hell exists and Jews are there right now, I'm pretty sure that no true Christian would tell you that the Jews there are bad people. They simply made a mistake in not listening to other people about what they should do.
In fact, some would argue that the Christians who attempt to convert Jews are being anti-anti-Semitic, or pro-Semitic, rather. If Christians really didn't care an ounce about Jews, they'd tell themselves that the Jews could rot in hell for all they cared, and that they weren't going to bother trying to convert them. Isn't that what someone who didn't care about Jews would want?
You want to know who the real anti-Semites in this country really are? Most anti-Semites in this country are Muslims and/or Black, and those aren't mutually exclusive groups. The ADL did a study that stated that 12% of Americans hold anti-semitic beliefs. Only 9% of white Americans held those beliefs. ~33% of black Americans held those beliefs, if I remember correctly. I would bet you that the rate of anti-semitism among Evangelical Christians is <2%. It might even be <1%. Why?
Well, because from what I understand from talking to pastors at my school, the Jews are God's chosen people. If the Jews convert to Christianity, then they will become Jewish Christians and have a special place in the world to come. Not like royalty or anything like that, but let's just say that they'll be looked upon with favor by Jesus. Because Jesus was the Jewish man who created Christianity after all.
In sum, don't you think you're better off focusing your attention on the real anti-Semites? Like the Muslims here in America and in other places who have already stated that they WANT to kill us? They don't care if we convert to Christianity. They think we support a savage state (Israel) and they want to wipe us out. You want another anti-semitic enemy to be scared of? How about the white nationalists on the LEFT who are socialist in belief but believe that all non-white people should leave the United States. Guess what? They include Jews in that non-white group. The white nationalists have found common ground with the leftists because they both hate Israel and most of them hate Jews as well.
Not all of them are anti-semitic, but a good percentage KNOW that anti-semitism is NOT acceptable to teh general public but anti-zionism is at least partially acceptable discourse in our country. They can't come right out and say that they want to kill the Jews like Hitler did. So they couch their hatred in statements like "Well, Jews control the U.S. government because we give money to Israel, shouldn't we do something about that?" Then, iff the listener is receptive, they go on about how Jews control the financial system and the government and all other kinds of racist crap.
In short, you should be quiet. If you're Jewish then you're completely misguided in calling these people on this site anti-Semitic. Sure, I'm sure a small % are (like the Pat Buchanan lovers who don't see anything wrong with what he says), but the vast majority love Israel. 95%+ of those in the House and Senate who oppose Israel are Democrats.
It's a popular misconception that there cannot be Jews who are antisemites. There can, and there are - like for example Jewish antizionists. But the conversion problem is of a sightly different nature.
See, a Jew who convert to the Yashua / Yahwe whatever cult becomes whatever demonination he converts to and is no longer a Jew. So what you want is the erasure of Jews. QED. Your mouth is your owen.
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