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They are Out to Get Us (Atheism on Campus)
Catholic Exchange ^ | May 18, 2010 | Patti Maguire Armstrong

Posted on 05/18/2010 10:10:10 AM PDT by NYer

Not only are they out to get us, they want our children too. “They” being the atheist stalkers that seek to undermine every shred of faith in God. They are sometimes blatant and sometimes sneaky, but they know what they are doing. Consider the “Atheist Pocket Debater,” a new iPhone app released last month. The competition is stiff with more than 150,000 apps on the market, yet “Atheist Pocket Debater” is currently ranked #100 in popularity. Here is the iTunes description:

“Atheist Pocket Debater” gives many ways to argue against Christians, Creationists, and Bible thumpers. It is set up for very quick reference and memorization, yet contains full arguments as well as different ways to argue the same topics. Examples include “Lack of Historical Evidence for Jesus,” “America Was NOT Created as a Christian Nation,” and “God Is Too Hidden to Be Real.” Arm yourself with very powerful and logical arguments against religious zealots.

This battle against God is especially obvious on college campuses where our kids are sent to learn often under Atheist professors that teach heresy as if it was logic. Once, atheists were not so visible. Today, they are more aggressive and vocal, perhaps emboldened by best-selling books such as “The God Delusion” (2006) by Richard Dawkins and “God Is Not Great” (2007) by Christopher Hitchens. According to a Pew Research Center survey, twenty percent of young Americans are atheists, agnostics or have “no religion,” up from 11 percent in 1988,

The first steps towards atheism are the steps away from practicing religion. Without the influence of parents and community, once kids leave home, they are more likely to fall away from going to Mass. A recent UCLA study revealed that 52 percent of college students said they attended religious services frequently the year before entering college. By their junior year, though, that level of attendance had dropped to 29 percent of students.

Fighting Back

What are parents to do? Instead of fretting over stocking them with school supplies, clean underwear and a sturdy backpack, our primary concern should be schooling them in their faith.

A Protestant publisher sharing the same concern has come out The “Apologetics Study Bible for Students” app, the digital student-friendly edition of their popular Apologetics Study Bible, which has sold more than 115,000 copies. It was designed to give “young people straight answers to the hardest faith questions being asked of them.”

“Apologetics helps develop believers who are passionate and self-confident,” says Sean McDowell, editor of the Apologetics Study Bible for Students. “Christians who believe but cannot explain why they believe often become insecure about their convictions.

The Bible and the app are good tools against attacks on Jesus, yet, be aware that these are Christian but not specifically Catholic resources. While we wait for a Catholic app, we can make use of other material that are specifically Catholic. I recommend the easy-to-use book in the apologetic series, “Beginning Apologetics” by Fr. Frank Chacon and Jim Burnham. Their book on How to Answer Atheists and New Agers prepares people to respond confidently to the misinformation and attacks of agnostics and atheists. There is also a Catholic Parent website that lists a number of books to help fight against atheisism.

The College Survival Kit for Catholics, is a DVD with four talks on moral relativism given by Catholic author, Dr. Peter Kreeft. It is especially suited to high school and college kids and addresses such things as moral relativism and being Catholic in a post-Christian culture. (At the end of this article are more resources from CE’s online store.)

Don’t Let Them Leave Home Without It

We cannot force faith itself, but it is our responsibility to arm our children for battle — spiritual battle. The fight is not always just between faith (in God) and no faith but it also includes filling our children up with knowledge of their own Catholic religion before they leave home. Along with atheists trying to discredit God, many will confront Catholic bashers both inside and outside the Church that belittle and misinterpret Catholic teaching. Our kids should know what it is they are defending if they are to defend it with zeal.

Teaching my children the truth once seemed like a daunting task to me, one that knew so little of it. I wanted to do better than passing on just surface teachings, so I began reading books on apologetics and taking notes. After several years of research, I was inspired to share it with other parents in Catholic Truths for Our Children. The idea was to collect the strongest explanations of Catholic teachings from the most respected apologists in the country and include the Scripture passages that supported these teachings. In addition to really learning my religion, I came to understand some key points.

No Guarantees

Alas, I know through my own family and friends that the battle can be fierce after kids leave home. No matter what we do, there is no guarantee they won’t slip spiritually.

The Fellowship of Catholic University Students (FOCUS) knows this well enough that it has enlisted an army of missionaries to evangalize our young adults. The secular culture and anti-Catholic forces are pulling hard, but FOCUS is pulling back. It was founded in 1998 by Curtis Martin and Dr. Edward Sri and sends missionaries around the country to campuses.

In just twelve years, FOCUS now extends to 45 campuses in 25 states with over 200 full-time staff members. More than 10,000 students are involved in FOCUS on college campuses through a number of activities including Bible studies. FOCUS takes recent college graduates, trains them in the teachings of the Catholic Church, Scripture and practical aspects of ministry, and sends them out typically in teams of four to serve on college campuses to reach kids through friendship and win them over to Christ.

But even with an entire arsenal of spiritual ammunition, in spiritual warfare there is always an ebb and flow. As some of our kids are leaving the faith, others are returning. Fr. Gary Benz of Linton, ND once shared some thoughts with me that reflect the importance of keeping the faith even if our children go astray

Jesus did everything right but He was still put on the cross. He could have said: ‘Look what I did for them and they put me on the cross.’ He did all the right things but still ended up on the cross, Judas betrayed Him and his apostles except for John ran away. Parents often feel this way and so do pastors. We are the spiritual fathers of our congregations. It hurts to see kids go off and engage in bad behavior. We think, ‘Well, what did I do wrong?’ I know what parents go through. But there are still prayers.

Fr. Benz stressed the power of prayer and hope. He said that many times, he has seen kids that walked away from their religion at one point, come back stronger than ever later on.

Fr. Benz also points out that if a child has strayed, perhaps it brings home the powerful lesson that we are not in control. Regardless of our efforts, faith is ultimately a gift that cannot be forced. We must do our part to raise our children in the Faith and then step back and pray as we place them in God’s hands.

Additional resources (your purchase helps support this website):

Preparing Your Faith for College

How to Stay Catholic in College

Answering the New Atheism

Greater Than You Think – A Theologian Answers the Atheist

Made for More by Curtis Martin (This book comes from FOCUS)

The Loser Letters ( a new book from Ignatius which combats atheism with wit and satire)


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: academicbias; antichristian; antitheism; app; atheism; atheistpocketdebater; culturewar; education; fundamentalatheism; hatespeech; iphone; liberalbigots; liberalfascism; moralabsolutes; religiousintolerance; thenogodgod
Patti Maguire Armstrong is the mother of ten children including two Kenyan AIDS orphans. She is a speaker and the author of Catholic Truths for Our Children: A Parent's Guide (Scepter) and the children's book, Dear God, I Don't Get It!" (Bezalel). She was also the managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press's Amazing Grace book series. Her website is RaisingCatholicKids.com.
1 posted on 05/18/2010 10:10:11 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Don’t forget to pray for them daily!


2 posted on 05/18/2010 10:11:11 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer
“Atheist Pocket Debater” gives many ways to argue against Christians, Creationists, and Bible thumpers.

Shouldn't an atheism take on ALL religions? For too many, it is sheer antiChristian bigotry that drives their hate.

And their own supremacist theology in the "no god" God should not be imposed on those "following false gods".

3 posted on 05/18/2010 10:14:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: NYer

“Atheists” until something bad happens to them or a loved one.

Then they cry out to God to save them.


4 posted on 05/18/2010 10:15:47 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: NYer

“Atheist Pocket Debater gives many ways to argue against Christians, Creationists, and Bible thumpers.”

I was thrilled to hear that this app was available, but I’ve decided to wait until version 2.0 comes out with enhanced features, such as tips on arguing against Muslim believers...


5 posted on 05/18/2010 10:19:05 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: NYer

So whose going to write the “Christian Pocket Debater” ?

(and make a little bundle of cash.)


6 posted on 05/18/2010 10:22:45 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: NYer
Without the influence of parents and community, once kids leave home, they are more likely to fall away from going to Mass. A recent UCLA study revealed that 52 percent of college students said they attended religious services frequently the year before entering college. By their junior year, though, that level of attendance had dropped to 29 percent of students.

* * * *

We cannot force faith itself. . . .


It seems like "we" can and it's been done to children from the beginning of time, but the odds of it sticking are variable.

Young adults have to sort out for themselves what they choose to believe in. A rote devotion to a "religious tradition," entirely chosen and fostered by the parents, becomes thin gruel if it is followed merely for the sake of keeping up appearances and avoiding familial conflict.
7 posted on 05/18/2010 10:24:15 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: a fool in paradise
Shouldn't an atheism take on ALL religions? For too many, it is sheer antiChristian bigotry that drives their hate.

Heh. I'd pay to watch an atheist "take on" a radical muslim, in the flesh.

8 posted on 05/18/2010 10:25:25 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: a fool in paradise

You are making a very good point. The attack is invariably against Christianity which is an integral part of Western Civilization.


9 posted on 05/18/2010 10:26:47 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Texan Tory

Does it include legal defense arguments for arguing with Scientologist$?


10 posted on 05/18/2010 10:27:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I was rereading Paul Krassner’s autobiography last night and he mentioned joining an atheist organization in the mid-1950s. He was later “shocked” to see it “tranform” into the publisher of an antisemitic hate newletter.

On top of that, when he got his Korean war draft notice, he appealed to the ACLU to challenge a loyalty oath of draftees in which they pledged they did not belong to any one of 600 subversive organizations. He said he had never joined any organization. Yet by his own admission he’d joined a radical atheist organization and had called upon the ACLU. He ended up ducking the war with a 4-F classification.


11 posted on 05/18/2010 10:31:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: pnh102

“...a radical muslim...”

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You’re redundant.


12 posted on 05/18/2010 10:35:09 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM -- America's road to destruction.)
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To: NYer

I’m reading Ravi Zacharias’ “Beyond Opinion” right now - it’s got a pretty good section on engaging with atheists.

Colonel, USAFR


13 posted on 05/18/2010 10:47:28 AM PDT by jagusafr (Don't make deals with pirates)
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To: a fool in paradise
Shouldn't an atheism take on ALL religions? For too many, it is sheer antiChristian bigotry that drives their hate.

Bingo. Most people aren't independent minded. They spout things because someone they respect put it out there first. When white kids are taught through public education and the infotainment industry NOT to respect their heritage, race, religion, country, or family--and their parents are derelict in countering that poison--they look for other things to fill the void and give them direction. They could become trustafarians, yo-boys, dopeheads, sluts, so-called anarchists, citizens of the world, or anti-Christians. All of which is further encouraged on most college campuses. Don't expect to see anything that isn't anti-traditional American join that list, that's not in the script.
14 posted on 05/18/2010 11:09:14 AM PDT by Chiltepe
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To: Chiltepe

San Francisco gave us the “alternate” religions of Scientology, LeVey’s Church of Satan, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson’s original “Manson family”.


15 posted on 05/18/2010 11:16:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: NYer

I don’t fear atheists because they don’t fear God or they don’t even factor him in their lives.

You will always fail with that approach.


16 posted on 05/18/2010 12:31:27 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Goldsborough
Young adults have to sort out for themselves what they choose to believe in.

No, it is the parents role to teach them the faith properly and to live the faith as a family. They are not to go out on this expedition unguided (without a good foundation of Truth) as this could be disastrous.

A rote devotion to a "religious tradition," entirely chosen and fostered by the parents, becomes thin gruel if it is followed merely for the sake of keeping up appearances and avoiding familial conflict.

I agree with this statement.

17 posted on 05/18/2010 1:07:14 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Del Rapier
I don’t fear atheists ...

This article is not about you; it's about your children.

18 posted on 05/18/2010 3:21:10 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

If you don’t know what you stand for - you will fall for anything.


19 posted on 05/18/2010 3:26:44 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: NYer

Nevermind.


20 posted on 05/18/2010 3:28:56 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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