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To: ScubieNuc

**So basically, do you believe that a person (or a soul) will either spend eternity suffering or spend eternity in bliss?**

I’m going to throw in my answer and Campion can answer later.

Eternity in heaven or eternity in hell? That is the question.

For Catholics (and perhaps for others), a period of suffering in purgatory (will) may be necessary, for no one who is impure in any way can NOT enter the kingdom of heaven. The suffering in Purgatory is a waiting time of purification. The people there know they are going to heaven and must first attone for some of the damages they did in their lives and to the lives of others.

Those who die in the state of mortal sin are choosing to live in an eternity of hell as this original post states.

Another thing that Catholics count as a great gift is the Sacrament of Reconciliation. In confessing our sins, doing repentance and being absolved of the sin, we know that God forgives us and that HE also FORGETS those sins, because we are already doing the penance for them. It is truly a blessing and healing Sacrament.


9 posted on 05/21/2010 8:22:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
I asked: So basically, do you believe that a person (or a soul) will either spend eternity suffering or spend eternity in bliss?

You answered:

Those who die in the state of mortal sin are choosing to live in an eternity of hell as this original post states.

First, thanks for a straight forward answer. Second, I show you why I disagree with your answer.

What does the Bible say the wages of sin are and the gift of God is?

Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

So the wages of sin is the END of life, not an eternal life filled with torture. Plus that is compared to what is given...ETERNAL LIFE. In order to be tortured forever and ever in "hell" or the Lake of Fire, a person would have to already have eternal life or be immortal. That is contrary to other verses.

1 Cor 15:53 "For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality."

1 Tim 6:15-16 "He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone possesses immortality..."

Basically, what the Bible says is that the punishment for sin is eternal, but eternal in its consequences. So it is an eternal punishment, not an eternal punishing. The saved will live eternally with God, the unsaved will be destroyed in the Lake of Fire, and the consequence of that will be eternal.
10 posted on 05/21/2010 5:05:58 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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