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To: Leoni
If you read the material you posted carefully you will see that it affirms the validity of Orthodox sacraments and apostolicity of the Orthodox Churches. It condemns the Orthodox Churches not for their doctrines — which are indeed orthodox — but for their persistence in schism. So what is changed is that today we detect a genuine desire to find a road toward genuine reunification. That is the only thing that changed since Florence, the attitudes of the Orthodox bishops. Alleluia.
21 posted on 05/24/2010 6:42:59 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
Re: If you read the material you posted carefully you will see that it affirms the validity of Orthodox sacraments and apostolicity of the Orthodox Churches.

I posted the material. I stated clearly that the Orthodox have valid orders and apostolic succession. What I added though, is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART: their sacraments are of no efficacy, they are useless to the recipient, if he is in the sin of heresy and schism. It is like a Catholic receiving communion while in a state of mortal sin, it is useless, not efficacious.

Re: It condemns the Orthodox Churches not for their doctrines — which are indeed orthodox

They are condemned for schism AND heresy. Thy have always been in heresy, that means some of their doctrines are not orthodox, they are heretical.

That fact puts a damper the rest of your speculations, as to why the Russian Orthodox are doing this.

24 posted on 05/25/2010 9:05:08 AM PDT by Leoni
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