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Adore the Lord in Holy Attire – On Proper Dress for Mass
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 5/24/2010 | Msgr Charles Pope

Posted on 05/25/2010 4:49:27 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 05/25/2010 4:49:27 AM PDT by markomalley
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About 6 or 7 years ago, I attended a church Easter service where a teenager (seated next to his mother) was wearing a black tee-shirt with a picture of a skull with a large snake entwined around and through it. I think it said something like “Mega Death” -— name of a band, I guess. Words just failed me. As my mother would have said, “I don’t blame the kid, I blame his mother.”

Unbelievable.


2 posted on 05/25/2010 4:57:54 AM PDT by MIlle
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To: markomalley

About appropriate church attire, God accepts just as we are, but we regard an activity as more important if we take care and consideration as to how we dress and present ourselves. If we dress casually, we tend to view worship casually. If we dress as if we are giving homage to the Ruler, than we tend to view worship as a priviledge.


3 posted on 05/25/2010 5:01:17 AM PDT by Jemian
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I think that is an appropriate view. In Protestant churches, the question of whether women should wear hats is a big deal in a lot of congregations, as in the age of women’s lib, this has fallen out of favor with a lot of women.

I think the danger in these types of discussions is that too much emphasis is placed on tradition at the expense of the Word. This is something about which Christ warned.


5 posted on 05/25/2010 5:04:56 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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6 posted on 05/25/2010 5:07:15 AM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: MIlle

My 16-year-old sometimes tries to get out the door in his rock-band t-shirts. I don’t allow it.


7 posted on 05/25/2010 5:13:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (It's Pat, his obsessive-compulsive disorder, and his all-alien orchestra!)
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To: Jemian

I am of two minds about this. As for the kid wearing the skull shirt, yes, it seems inappropriate, but on the other hand at least he is THERE, in church. I think you should dress respectfully and modestly. What I would wear or let my kids wear to Saturday evening Mass would not be the same thing I would wear/have them wear on Sunday AM. I am also opposed to mandating women to wear a dress or skirt. One can look perfectly elegant and dressed up in pants, and I do not see the need for it to be skirt. One can exalt form over substance with regard to dress for church, and IMO that is wrong.


8 posted on 05/25/2010 5:16:08 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: markomalley

my biggest pet peeve are brides in strapless gowns in church.
No need to show your cleavage in church.


9 posted on 05/25/2010 5:16:45 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: Publius Valerius

Indeed, the hat or no hat discussion can get very big. Paul was a bit ambiguous when he stated just ten verses after the admonition not to pray with our heads uncovered, that our hair is given to us for a covering. So, does having locks, or long locks constitute an appropriate covering? I say yes, but my mennonite friends say no.

When we all get to heaven, these issues will be moot.


10 posted on 05/25/2010 5:21:18 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: xsmommy; Publius Valerius
too much emphasis is placed on tradition at the expense of the Word. This is something about which Christ warned.

One can exalt form over substance with regard to dress for church,

I don't think there is any disagreement between the three of us. My prayer is that I will exalt the Lord and if I see someone dressed inappropriately (as defined by me), my prayer is that I will gain God's viewpoint and not be judgmental. I find I am often confessing a judgmental and, alas, a condemning attitude. Please be patient with me. God isn't through with me yet.

FWIW, I know this is a "catholic" thread. However, I am a protestant. This topic is often discussed in "our" churches, too.

11 posted on 05/25/2010 5:26:20 AM PDT by Jemian
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My parish is a major tourist attraction. You can always tell the who the tourists are by how badly/inappropriately they are dressed. I realize that they dress for the day early and are probably headed to the Garden or the Zoo or something that requires a lot of walking and in the summer it can be incredibly hot here, but the priests have been known to kick people out of the Blessed Sacrament chapel if they're in shorts and a tank top. We've had blurbs in the bulletin for a few years regarding appropriate dress and I'm not talking about the medical personnel who are on their way home from work and come in their scrubs, I'm talking about lazy weekend clothes. In the last few years, it seems that parishioners are dressing more appropriately. You see a lot more coats and ties and the ladies look like ladies. There is a contingent of old money in the parish as well as professionals, so it's not much of a stretch for them. For the rest of us, long skirts and three-quarter sleeves are readily available. For the guys, khakis and a polo isn't that much to ask.

Now, off to the office where coats and ties are still required (except between Memorial Day and Labor Day so long as the guys have no meetings), where the women are in jackets and skirts and where there are no casual Fridays. At some level, this still exists.

12 posted on 05/25/2010 5:29:07 AM PDT by Desdemona
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FWIW, I know this is a "catholic" thread.

This is not a "caucus" thread. Whoever wishes to comment is more than welcome to do so.

13 posted on 05/25/2010 5:29:17 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Jemian

no prob! my brother converted to Baptist and i know they dress up more than the catholics, but have complained that standards are slipping there too. my problem is indecent, immodest clothing, more so than stuff that is too casual, not dressed up enough. women should not make it hard for men to concentrate on God in church by dressing provocatively.


14 posted on 05/25/2010 5:30:00 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Bigg Red

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15 posted on 05/25/2010 5:31:47 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: markomalley

While the manner of dress may have an impact, I would rather see more in attendance and living their life in Christ.

Shouldn’t we be more concerned about following the commandments and loving God and our neighbor?

Lead by example. God is our Judge. We need to love and help our neighbor as difficult as that may be.


16 posted on 05/25/2010 5:34:05 AM PDT by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: Jemian

Right on.


17 posted on 05/25/2010 5:34:10 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: xsmommy

Just try visiting churches, synagogues or mosques in the Holy Land amd not exalting both form and substance

They won’t let men in without long slacks, women with arms and heads covered

I believe they remember the days when people dressed in such a way as to show modesty and respect for the Almighty before entering His sanctuaries. Even Moses had to take off his shoes to approach the burning Bush. It was not a suggestion.


18 posted on 05/25/2010 6:07:24 AM PDT by silverleaf
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Respectful Mass, respectful dressing. Casual (or sloppy) Mass, same applies to the dress of some of its customers.

I saw a mom and a son come to Mass together on a Harley, and the son, all pierced, with long hair/tattoos and an inappropriate "t" turned it inside out in the parking lot and put it back on. Made my heart melt a bit (because he well could have gotten away with wearing it the other way around). It's the effort Christ sees IMO.
19 posted on 05/25/2010 6:12:36 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: Jemian
When we all get to heaven

If we get to heaven

20 posted on 05/25/2010 6:13:57 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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