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To: Star Traveler
I disagree that New agers are involved in anything less than a cult...the history of new agers goes back to Alexander the Great until Christianity stomped it out....they ALL are based on paganism practices.

Some like to believe, because practicing todays new age means you can pick from a pot of many eastern beliefs to fit your own idea, that it's somehow acceptable or not New Age, However their basic principles and practices remain the same...and they do lead people away from Christ in time.

The title mentions “Ufo New Age” which these are definately cult. Similar to the Heaven's Gate group. Believing humans have taken the form of aliens etc. The Ralien movement is one of many from Pledians to Starseeds...etc.etc. The galactic federation etc. They also wrap themselves in many of the government conspiracy issues.

The dangers are the transcendental meditations and the strong arm of internet “teachers” who spoonfed this junk...

10 posted on 05/25/2010 11:03:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
You were saying ...

I disagree that New agers are involved in anything less than a cult..

It's a matter of definition here.

There is such a thing as "New Age thinking" or a "New Age worldview" that many people have -- but are not involved in a "cult group".

By me saying that they are not involved in a "cult group" does not mean that they are Biblical and that they are in line with basic Christianity. That's not what is meant by that.

Everyone who denies Christianity is not -- "in a cult group" -- by that denial of the Bible's message of Christianity and it's doctrines.

Now, if one is a Jehovah's Witness member -- then -- they are "in a cult group". Being in a cult group has a "dynamic" that is very oppressive and coercive. There is a list of "bullet-point-items" that one can "check-off" to see if a "group" meets the definition of "cult group".

But, having a "worldview" that is opposed to the Bible and the doctrines of Christianity -- as an "individual" (but not as a "member" of a paricular group) -- that "worldview" just by itself, doesn't make one a "cult member".

It may sound like I'm splitting hairs here, but there is a definition to "cult groups" and you can identify particular ones -- and each one has its own way of teaching and viewing things, which will be different from another. They all may be wrong (according to the Bible) -- but -- they are all "not the same" with one another and there are "distinctives" that separate one cult from another cult group.

See Walter Martin's book on Kingdom of the Cults -- and you'll have many groups actually "defined" and "identified" and their teaching analyzed -- and you can distinguish the one from the other, with cult groups.


The title mentions “Ufo New Age” which these are definately cult. Similar to the Heaven's Gate group.

You mention "Heaven's Gate" and that is definitely a "cult group"... but there is no such "group" as the "New Age group" that you can identify as a "cult group".

There is a "worldview" that is "New Age" ... but that is not a "cult group" itself. You can generally identify "thinking" that is typical with "New Agers" -- and the thinking is not Biblical and does not accord with Christian doctrine -- but just because that individual has a "New Age worldview" does not put him in a "cult group".

But, if you are talking about "Heaven's Gate" (which will incorporate "New Age thinking" into its group) and the person is a "member" of "Heaven's Gate" -- then -- they are in a "cult group".


It's important to know if a person is involved in a "specific cult group" -- or instead -- if they merely hold to a "worldview" (like "New Agers"), but don't belong to a cult group.

If they are in a specific cult group, you would approach that person in a different way, than if they were merely a "New Ager" in their "thinking" (i.e., "worldview").

You do need to know if you're dealing with a "cult group member" -- or -- if you're dealing with a person who holds a particular "worldview" as an individual. The "dynamic" is different and the way you approach them will be different.

13 posted on 05/25/2010 11:32:23 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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