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The fight over Book of Mormon geography
Mormon Times ^ | May 27, 2010 | Michael DeGroote

Posted on 05/27/2010 6:44:33 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Religion Moderator

I appreciate your concern, but my word choice was deliberate.

Intent is revealed through posting history. Continually misrepresenting facts and withholding truth is lying.

Theological discussion is open to interpretation, documented historical acts are not. Posting half-truths with the intent to invoke an emotional response rather than rational though is dishonest, and it is continually practiced on these threads.


101 posted on 05/27/2010 9:27:15 AM PDT by Skenderbej (No muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Source? I already posted a source that states this isn’t true. Maybe three decades ago, but not in 2010.


103 posted on 05/27/2010 9:28:56 AM PDT by Skenderbej (No muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Still trying to figure out why a mere posting of FACT caused you so much angst?
If you are lonely, buy a dog....
Please point out where I said anything bad about Christians?
Biased? Bigoted?
Obviously, the voices inside your head do not represent the views of your own mind.


104 posted on 05/27/2010 9:30:55 AM PDT by donozark (I'd rather fly with a Mormon than a Muslim...)
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To: Skenderbej

Since you will not comply, leave the thread.


105 posted on 05/27/2010 9:31:18 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: ejonesie22

You as well feel the Mormon apology “insincere?” “Spin control?” Inadequate?”


107 posted on 05/27/2010 9:34:02 AM PDT by donozark (I'd rather fly with a Mormon than a Muslim...)
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To: donozark; reaganaut
There is a huge difference, Chieftains call those people out.........not so with JS and his defenders.
108 posted on 05/27/2010 9:35:16 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: donozark

Maybe I missed it, but can you provide a link to this “Mormon apology?”


109 posted on 05/27/2010 9:36:40 AM PDT by colorcountry ("Showing mercy to the wolves is showing cruelty to the sheep." - Unknown)
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To: donozark

All things Mormon are “insincere” “spin control” “inadequate”...

All scams work that way.

Comes from that Charlatan thing you so correctly pointed out for us...


111 posted on 05/27/2010 9:38:30 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: magritte
M, it is not ant-mormon it is anti-mormonISM.

Why this concept is difficult to understand I do not know.

112 posted on 05/27/2010 9:40:07 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: colorcountry; donozark

Eyring was careful to place responsibility with local LDS civic and religious leaders, rather than with Brigham Young or the LDS Church. Some, including Fancher Party descendants and historian Will Bagley, did not see this as an apology. Church spokesman Mark Tuttle agreed, saying “We don’t use the word ‘apology.’ We used ‘profound regret.’


113 posted on 05/27/2010 9:40:41 AM PDT by colorcountry ("Showing mercy to the wolves is showing cruelty to the sheep." - Unknown)
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To: colorcountry

See #31.


114 posted on 05/27/2010 9:42:32 AM PDT by donozark (I'd rather fly with a Mormon than a Muslim...)
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To: colorcountry

Its unforntunate that the Deseret News did not interview any of the “hundreds” of descendants of the victims who were there...


115 posted on 05/27/2010 9:46:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Do not ping someone who has been instructed to leave the thread.


116 posted on 05/27/2010 9:47:04 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Sorry I didnt realize that at the time..


117 posted on 05/27/2010 9:48:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kenny Bunk; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian
The tantalizing traces are there.

So where is the documentation and the proofs? Fact of the matter is mesoamerican history has been studed, explored and evaluated in great detail - yet not one undisputed piece of evidence of hebraic/egyptian culture has been found - nada, zero, zip. The fact is that the LGT area as progressively gotten smaller and smaller over time why - because these 'tantalizing' traces are only figments of the imagination and have not borne fruit under critical scientific study. Furthermore, this is not a single disciplinary study - but multi-disciplinary encompassing dna, anthropology, archaeology, linguistic, paleontology and geology just to name a few. So your statement that we still know 'very little' is no longer valid. There have been no cultures with advanced metallurgy, horses, old world crops, chariots (and other wheeled carts), concrete etc found - period.

For example, there are various schools of thoughts on when and where the hemisphere was first inhabited, ranging all over the map and from 7-25,000 years

You apparently are not familar with the bom story - most of which is focused on 350 BC - 600 AD.

ain't no pal of Joseph Smith, but I am definitely cutting Old Joe all possible slack on this particular subject ... and wish all of my Mormon friends debating the various controversies good luck and thanks for looking in to it.

There is no slack to 'cut'. Joseph smith claimed that the amerindians of his day were descendants of the hebrew party that arrived in the americas 350 bc. This has been shown to be false. Since smith 'made up' the story (lied), the rest of his 'revelations' are at best highly questionable and should cause all mormons to stop and think.

118 posted on 05/27/2010 10:00:51 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Skenderbej
I was shooting from memory.

Shot yourself in the foot.

119 posted on 05/27/2010 10:04:12 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, 12 Miles East of Mukuntuweap National Monument)
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To: svcw
Intriguing...here's the Wikipedia definition of anti-Mormonism...

Anti-Mormonism is discrimination, hostility or prejudice directed at members of the Latter Day Saint movement, particularly The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). The term also applies to the religious persecution of Latter Day Saints and the doctrines, practices and culture of the Latter Day Saint movement.

Guess the definition of the phrase depends on which ox is being gored...magritte
120 posted on 05/27/2010 10:10:18 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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