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To: Godzilla; Colofornian; ejonesie22; aMorePerfectUnion; reaganaut

Ok, let’s get something squared away here.

If, as calculated, the plates were to weigh something along the lines of 200lbs. and Smith never claimed he was given heavenly powers to carry the plates, how did he run through the woods for 1-2 miles while being chased by bandits, with a gimpy leg no less?

Just how did the “reliable witnesses handle and heft the gold plates” if the plates weighed ~ 200lbs.?

The story defies all logic, reason, science, physics, etc.

We have JS’s own words to corroborate the ~ wt. of the plates using the dimensions given.

We have his own words saying he wasn’t bestowed with any divine strength.

We have his own personal history which indicates that as a result of some medical procedure on his leg that he walked with a limp and used a cane.

It just doesn’t compute.


1,062 posted on 07/16/2010 8:46:59 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: SZonian; John McDonnell; Colofornian; ejonesie22; aMorePerfectUnion; reaganaut
Just how did the “reliable witnesses handle and heft the gold plates” if the plates weighed ~ 200lbs.? The story defies all logic, reason, science, physics, etc. We have JS’s own words to corroborate the ~ wt. of the plates using the dimensions given.

You are entirely correct SZ, and this is another component against the mythology of the origin of the bom. Even if a lower weight used - say 60 lbs - that would still make the 'plates' unmanageable for handling as well as running with them and jumping over fences, etc.

So objectively one is faced with hard facts-

The weight of the plates

The testimonies of non-viewing with physical eye but with 'spiritual' eyes

The multi-year history of writing the bom

The lies of D&C 10 to cover-up lies in the composition timeline

The abundance of other writings predating the bom that covers the EXACT SAME story lines and material - hebrew origins of amerindians, scrolls found in a stone box buried on a hill, massive genocidal battles, horses and elephants in the americas, etc

The lack of moral character of the so-called 'witnesses'

The 4000+ changes to the most perfect book on earth

The 'translation' method that didn't even require the presence of the plates - just stuffing ones face into a hat and viewing an occultic 'seer' stone - same used earlier in smith's career to bilk people looking for buried treasure.

TOTAL failure to uncover ANY bom artifacts in the Americas that clearly show an advanced, hebraic society here.

Not only does the whole thing "not compute" SZ, it doesn't even pass the smell test. It is all based upon a subjective "feeling" about the whole matter and the only way one can reach the desired 'feeling' is to ignore the huge pile of evidence AGAINST the bom.

1,063 posted on 07/16/2010 9:00:38 AM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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