[NYer]

Thank you, Mark, for the history lesson.

[wagglebee]

Great thread!

[Mrs. Don-o]

I thought this might interest you.

What I particularly esteem about Mark Shea ia that, while he is by temperament as irascible as any of us, he still keeps writing and writing on the supposition that there must be somebody, somebody out there, who is still interested in old-fashioned, fact-based discussion.