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To: bkaycee

did you READ what the council of Trent wrote? It’s excerpted above. We are SAVED by Christ’s righteousness. We do not merit grace but receive it as a gift. That is Church teaching. God gives us the grace to have faith. We respond to God’s grace by faith. Our faith, if it is genuine, is shown through works.


53 posted on 05/31/2010 9:34:37 PM PDT by Cronos (Origen(200AD)"The Church received from theApostles the tradition of giving Baptism even to infants")
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To: Cronos
We do not merit grace but receive it as a gift. That is Church teaching. God gives us the grace to have faith. We respond to God’s grace by faith. Our faith, if it is genuine, is shown through works. Sounds like you might be a bit off. Council of Trent, Canon 24, 32

If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof: let him be anathema.

If any one saith, that the good works of one that is justified...does not truly merit increase of grace, eternal life, and the attainment of that eternal life— if so be, however, that he depart in grace,—and also an increase of glory: let him be anathema. The comments of John Gerstner are very pertinent here:

Some Romanists will say that they too teach justification by grace—by Christ’s righteousness, in fact. But the righteousness of Christ which they claim justifies is not Christ’s own personal righteousness reckoned or credited or given or imputed to believers. Romanists refer to the righteousness which Christ works into the life of the believer or infuses into him in his own living and behavior. It is not Christ’s personal righteousness but the believer’s personal righteousness, which he performs by the grace of God. It is Christ’s righteousness versus the believer’s own righteousness.

It is Christ’s achievement versus the Christian’s achievement. It is an imputed righteousness not an infused righteousness. It is a gift of God versus an accomplishment of man. These two righteousnesses are as different as righteousnesses could conceivable be. It does come down to the way it has been popularly stated for the last four and a half centuries: Protestantism’s salvation by faith versus Rome’s salvation by works...The Protestant trusts Christ to save him and the Catholic trusts Christ to help him save himself. It is faith versus works.

54 posted on 06/01/2010 6:36:39 AM PDT by bkaycee
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