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OK, I'm not going to bother donning my Nomex. I am a huge Beck fan. But this was colossally ignorant and embarrassing. I don't agree with the author's opinion that he is a moron, but it sure makes him look that way to those who would be prone to that idea. Oops.
1 posted on 05/31/2010 4:54:56 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn
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The Mormons have significant documentation issues across the board. It’s not surprising that he would try to paint Christendom with the same brush.


2 posted on 05/31/2010 4:59:45 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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Oh, haha..I happened to catch that show and now I see his mistake, it wasn’t the “Dead Sea Scrolls” it was the Nag Hamadi writings including Plutarch...

Beck mixed up Nag Hamadi with Qumran, though his concept, that religious people hid their dearly held writings in the face of an enemy that would destroy them, the scrolls were deposited in the caves to prevent there destruction.


3 posted on 05/31/2010 4:59:48 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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In general, I like Glenn Beck....but his explanation of the Dead Sea Scrolls is beyond ridiculous and is not academically supported.


4 posted on 05/31/2010 5:01:35 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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So can someone tell us what IS the correct origin and history of these Dead Sea Scrolls?


5 posted on 05/31/2010 5:01:41 AM PDT by Joann37
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Beck should stick to what he knows and leave religious history alone. “A man’s gotta know his limitations”.


6 posted on 05/31/2010 5:02:13 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yeah, I was in rehab. I got Hooked on Phonics. Darn that Sesame Street Gang.)
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Yeah, too stupid for words.

Beck confused some ancient texts, most of which people are clueless about. So that sure makes him stupid.

This article and the commentary proves that the war against Beck is now a Holy War of the Jihad stripe.

Why?

Because Beck is trying to warn people about how many of the mainstay churches and synagogues were taken over by Socialists.

The theological seminaries were infiltrated by Marxists/Statists at about the same time that they infiltrated academe. It originated in Germany, spread to the major European universities and then to the American universities.

When they infiltrated the theological seminaries, they replaced the Christian message of individual salvation that changes a person to perform good works to one of collective salvation that arises only through good works (good works as defined by Socialists, redistributing not only wealth but earnings, not “judging” even behavior that is an abomination to God, suicidal pacifism, etc.).

Beck is demonstrating regularly now how most churches are nothing more than arms of Socialism hidden with feel-good terms like “economic justice” and “social justice.”

So it is natural that churches and “religious” people who are Socialists first would want to destroy Beck. Their view of God’s kingdom is that of a totalitarian State. And Statism is their true religion.

Thus, they are fighting a Holy War with someone who is simply warning people of the wolves in sheep’s clothing WHILE HE IS ALSO ADVISING THEM TO TURN TO GOD TO PREPARE FOR THE DARK TIMES AHEAD.

Incidentally, I listen to Beck daily. I never heard him refer to Socialist Christians as “stupid” or as “morons” just misguided or misguiding based upon their Statist message.


10 posted on 05/31/2010 5:11:11 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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Glenn’s “jump the shark” moment? His credibility is on the wane.


12 posted on 05/31/2010 5:15:57 AM PDT by sarasota
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Well instead of posturing on some holy alter, and calling him “stupid”, like some 10 year old, just write him and tell him where he is in error, and he will gladly correct himself on his next show.

Like somehow THIS is something 99.9999% of people would honestly give a riff about someone getting wrong.

It’s not like Christ will give you an extra gold star for being so pompous about it.


14 posted on 05/31/2010 5:18:57 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya s ee how that turned out?)
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Actually, the Dead Sea Scrolls are what each of the 57 states created at their inception, then hid from the illegal immigrant invaders.


15 posted on 05/31/2010 5:19:34 AM PDT by Carley (DADDY DIDN'T PLUG THE HOLE YET)
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If this is what Beck said, then Beck is woefully ignorant of the history of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

That does not make him ignorant in other areas.


18 posted on 05/31/2010 5:23:52 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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HA HA yea! Glenn it TOO SToooPID FOR WORDS... hee hee hee.. that’s it for him then, huh?

duhhhhh he made a questionalble mistake about some ancient manuscripts in the context of a description of why they would be hidden in a cave (to prevent destruction) and THAT’S IT HE’S DONE FOR - every thing he has ever said and done is now in question!

- Beck is doing more for this country than many people combined (including YOU if this is your contribution)


20 posted on 05/31/2010 5:29:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!!!!!)
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I just push the button and change the station. I'm sitting in the car alone and I'm embarrassed by what he says sometimes. His big ideas head in the right direction, but his rants on radio are........
25 posted on 05/31/2010 5:44:29 AM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty in the coming year)
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His point is valid...these were scrolls that were perseved becayse people BELIEVED them to be true....where is the problem.


27 posted on 05/31/2010 5:51:20 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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I heard this the day he said it and actually commented on the Glenn Beck radio thread on FR. I thought the Nicea stuff sounded wonky and googled around. The Nicene council wasn’t when scripture was defined, that’s Dan Brown stuff. And I guess he confused the Nicene creed with the Apostles’ creed.

Flapp Jackson in the Morning this Morning’s strongest subject isn’t Church history, shocking. The point about teaching kids is good, maybe he’ll get another analogy next time.

Glenn is a radio DJ, I am a big fan too. I think his radio show has suffered with the start of the TV shows. But I think the TV show is good for conservatism.

Freegards


30 posted on 05/31/2010 6:24:04 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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Even if he meant to say “Nag Hammadi,” his portrait of Constantine, the Council of Nicea etc. is goofball stupid. Of course, it’s the sort of goofball stupidness that a lot of Christian-despising pro-Gnostic, champions of Gnostic Nag Hammadi against the eeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiiillllll mainstream Nicene Church of the day like to spout.

So Glenn B. in this instance grabbed a bunch of liberal pro-Gnostic Christian-despising academic distortion of history and misapplied it to the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Even if he had applied it to the Nag Hammadi Gnostic writings, it would be a case of Glenn Beck’s suspicion of historic mainstream Christianity leading him to let down his guard and accept nonsense because it accords with his “anti-Constantinianism.”

But a lot of low-church, anti-Catholic, Protestant share the same “boogeyman Constantine” bias and are susceptible to the same mistake.

So, okay, he mistook Nag Hammadi for Dead Sea Scrolls. But even if we cut him slack for that, he’s unwittingly buying into liberal crap.


31 posted on 05/31/2010 6:30:29 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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Glenn Beck is incorrect in his facts.

But Richard Amiel McGough is no follower of Yah'shua the Messiah.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

32 posted on 05/31/2010 6:32:24 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Glenn: “…the Dead Sea Scrolls, you know what they are? Stu, do you know what the Dead Sea Scrolls are? Stu: Well, of course I do… Glenn: Now, c’mon, most people don’t
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Some egos have an ignorant imagination...


40 posted on 05/31/2010 7:33:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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From the post, Glenn Beck excerpt: When Constantine decided that he was going to cobble together an army, he did the Council of Nicea, right, Pat? Pat: Yea. Glenn: The Council of Nicea, and what they did is brought all of the religious figures together, all the Christians and then they said, “Ok, let’s put together the Apostles’ Creed, let’s you know, you guys do it.” So they brought all their religious scripture together, that’s when the Bible was first bound and everything else. And then they said, “Anybody that disagrees with this is a heretic and off with their head!” Well, that’s what the Dead Sea Scrolls are. The Dead Sea Scrolls are those scriptures that people had at the time that they said, “They are destroying all of this truth.”

Well, this is probably as bad as a radio commentator can screw up something.

This is terribly embarrassing for anybody who even pretends to be "religious."

But it also shows Beck's Mormon bias toward Constantine, who Mormon leaders have been thrashing for his role in putting together the Council that elaborated the Nicene Creed.

What a lot of people don't realize is how strongly Mormons attack the Christian creeds, even enshring these attacks as Mormon "scripture" -- like the following:

Lds founder Joseph Smith claimed he was trying to figure out "which of all the sects was right...which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight; that those professors were ALL corrupt..." (Joseph Smith - History vv. 18-19, Pearl of Great Price)

So Beck is just confirming his Mormon beliefs -- that ALL creeds of Protestants, Catholic and Orthodox are putrid to his god(s).

44 posted on 05/31/2010 8:14:14 AM PDT by Colofornian
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Wow. If he is that stupid, no wonder he fell for Mormonism.

BTW, his statements are direct parroting of Mormon teaching which shows THEY have no idea of what the DSS are.


51 posted on 05/31/2010 10:09:13 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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Nothing against you Glenn but, your “little” history lesson is just plain wrong.

Those clay pot scriptures were written a couple thousand years before the Council Nicea.


60 posted on 05/31/2010 12:47:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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