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To: Cronos
SOLA Scriptura is just plain wrong for that reason -- it seeks to limit God.

God Himself has placed a limit on what He reveals to us.

Tradition is never said to be God breathed. Scripture is GOD Breathed (theopneustos), tradition is certainly NOT.

Psalm 138:2 I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

1 Cor 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other.

Isaiah 55:7 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD. 9"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.

1,008 posted on 06/09/2010 6:50:06 AM PDT by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee

More accurately, while at some point part of Scripture was the oral “word of God” before being written, (Ex. 24:4; Dt. 5:22; 31:34; Jer. 36:4) the Scriptures are only the objective authority which are affirmed to be wholly God-breathed, and thus becomes the authority by which all preaching, personal revelation (like “God spoke to my heart”) etc, can be tested, even as the noble Bereans exampled in examining the preaching of the very apostles. While some presume authority to give authority to teaching which fails that test, this was in error of the Pharisees in Mk. 7:9-13. And thus any purported or subjective “word of God” is subject to the established objective word of God.


1,009 posted on 06/09/2010 8:38:06 AM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out " (Acts 3:19))
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To: bkaycee
1. Yes, SCripture is God breathed, however St Paul tells us to stand fast to our traditions (God's Holy Tradition).
2. "your Word" i.e. God's Word --> as I keep repeating, that is not limited to ONLY scripture.
3. 1 Cor 4.6 --> I pointed out that this needs to be read in context of the entire 1 Cor 4. This is
1,010 posted on 06/09/2010 9:51:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Origen(200AD)"The Church received from theApostles the tradition of giving Baptism even to infants")
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To: bkaycee

Look I’m not perfect in a complete knowledge of scripture but how do explain this- You statement; “ Tradition is never said to be God breathed. Scripture is GOD Breathed (theopneustos), tradition is certainly NOT.” In Scripture that very word is used also here From Christ himself spoken word since Christ is God. We should also note he supercedes anyone on how to interpret. That said Its when he begins the Church in John - what about Jesus breathing on the apostles is this not the start of the church tradition which shows it supercedes for Apostles on how to interpret——————————— 21 Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. AS the Father has Sent me, Even so I am Sending You.” 22 And when he had said this, he Breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.”- Since Jesus is God He is giving them the power of attorney in his name. He BREATHED. Its not just about confession Its Totally about the authority he gives them-Notice As the Father Sent me, even so I am Sending You. Peter healed in Jesus name. Thru apostolic priesthood thru time. The Breath oF God was thru People. The breath of God was on people who wrote scripture. Also note The authority of a person who read scripture to the assembly. Why does faith come by hearing? It does not say from reading. Note Romans 10:17 “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” The Head Christian would read from authority.


1,026 posted on 06/11/2010 5:28:17 AM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail the Virgin Mary!)
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