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To: wagglebee
You posted the OPC statements and in no way does it deny the use of contraceptions as does the church in Rome.

You posted it but perhaps you didn't read it. I suggest you do so.

In case you didn't read the paragraphs you posted, I'll supply one of them for your understanding...

In the end, God doesn't give a pat answer about contraception. But he does provide a framework within which believers are responsible and free to make godly decisions. In fact, this framework does condemn most of the world's approach to contraception—but not because it's contraception. Rather, it condemns its fundamental self-centeredness (Ps. 10:4). Believing couples should soberly examine themselves as to whether they conform to this worldly selfishness and, if so, repent. Still, the biblical principles which we've considered seem to imply that—given right motives—God does permit contraception.

Hopefully you have now read these few words from the OPC to comprehend the simple fact that much of the world's contraception is based on "self-centeredness" (no doubt alluding to the world-wide use of abortion as a contraceptive.)

In case you're still not getting it, I'll repeat the last four words on the subject from the Orthodox Presbyterian Church which YOU posted...

"GOD DOES PERMIT CONTRACEPTION."

The Italian cheese stands alone.

56 posted on 06/09/2010 6:28:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Tax-chick; Dr. Brian Kopp

Pinging you in case you, too, had trouble reading Wagglebee’s post offering comments from the OPC which clearly differ from Rome’s restrictions.


57 posted on 06/09/2010 6:30:15 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; NYer

You are absolutely correct that the second of the two articles I posted from the OPC website states that God allows contraception (though in no way does the author recommend it).

However, I think you would be hard-pressed to find the author of the first article agreeing that God allows contraception. He states:

“This historical context alone does not prove that contraception is wrong. However, should we expect an immoral and hedonistic society to come up with genuine moral insight, contrary to nearly two millennia of consistent Christian teaching?”

http://opc.org/nh.html?article_id=471

What do YOU think? Do YOU believe that Christians have gained some genuine moral insight that didn’t exist for two thousand years? If so, how is it that you think it escaped theologians for so long?


110 posted on 06/10/2010 4:53:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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