Skip to comments.Iíve never seen Catholics evangelize!
Posted on 06/17/2010 6:38:02 AM PDT by markomalley
Last night I had the fortune of meeting Msgr. Charles Pope, pastor of Holy Comforter/St. Cyprian church in downtown Washington, D.C., and über-blogger for the Archdiocese of Washington. He was holding a meeting at his parish to plan for a major door-to-door evangelization campaign his parish will be conducting this Fall. I was invited to share my own experiences of going door-to-door. In many ways, I was there to smash the many myths that have cropped up around going door-to-door. Here are a few:
1) You will be yelled at and attacked.
I have organized going door-to-door to over 2,000 homes in the past four years, and we only had a single instance of someone yelling at us. The vast majority of people are polite, even if they are not interested. But even if someone did yell at you, why should that stop you? Our Lord told us that we are blessed when people persecute us in his name, so being yelled at while sharing the Gospel is a wonderful blessing.
2) Catholics dont go door-to-door; only Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses do that.
Quite often people who meet us when we are out evangelizing are shocked to hear we are Catholic. They expect us to be either Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses. We have even heard people exclaim Ive never seen Catholics evangelize! What a sad commentary. Our Lord told his followers to go to all the nations preaching the Gospel, so all Catholics are obligated to evangelize in some way and door-to-door evangelization is a great way to follow Christs command. Door-to-door evangelization has gotten a bad name, and this is mostly due to the aggressive tactics of Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses, who often browbeat those they meet in their attempt to make converts. But that does not have to be the only way to go door-to-door. In my experience, Catholics take a much more subdued approach. We go simply to share with others about our parish and the blessings we have received there. We have been given a great gift and we are letting others know about it.
3) I dont need to go door-to-door; I evangelize without using words.
When people are looking for excuses not to go door-to-door, they often remark that the best evangelization is without words and that is how they evangelize so they dont need to preach with words. Ive addressed that canard here. It is very important to evangelize with our whole lives, including our actions, but it is a false dichotomy to say that we should only do one method. The assumption of the Christian life is that we evangelize with our actions; we also need to evangelize with words.
4) You have to be outgoing to go door-to-door.
Most people picture the typical door-to-door evangelizer as someone who is bursting with enthusiasm and extroverted to the extreme. I have actually found that the best door-to-door evangelizers are the exact opposite; those who are willing to listen are the most effective at sharing Gods love with others. My wife has a definite gift for door-to-door: very often people will pour out their problems on her as soon as she gets to a door, and she is able to tell them that they will be loved at our Catholic parish.
5) Door-to-door is not effective.
People often cite statistics showing that going door-to-door isnt really effective and it doesnt bring people into church. My first response would be to ask why the Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses are growing so fast then? Also, Jerry Falwell built his megachurch from a tiny congregation by going door-to-door back in the 1950s. So it can be effective in growing numbers. But the real reason we go door-to-door isnt to effectively grow our church, it is to be obedient. Christ commanded us to share the Gospel with others, and this is a prime way to do it. And effectiveness can be measured in many ways. I have countless stories of praying with people who are hurting and sharing Gods love with strangers through door-to-door efforts. Furthermore, those who go are energized in their faith and often become better disciples of Christ after going door-to-door. Ultimately, we dont go door-to-door to get (converts), we go to give (Gods love).
I was very encouraged to see the work Msgr. Pope is doing and the enthusiasm of his parish for evangelization. I hope and pray that more Catholic parishes would recognize the great need to share the Good News with their neighbors who surround them.
I believe we had this conversation a while back.
They were extremely polite and not aggressive at all.
I'm much better now, and attend church regularly. Both of my babies have accepted Christ into their heart and are preparing to be baptized.
All Christians need to be unafraid and unashamed of their fath. When we hide God's light, darkness takes its place.
Ping to read later
1) You will be yelled at and attacked.
Well I’ve had a loaded shotgun to my head...
But I just continued to tell the man that Jesus loved him and He died on the Cross to save him..
Never let a little thing like a loaded shotgun stop you from telling the truth...
Compared to Biblical Christians (Protestants, Baptists, Evangelicals, etc.), Catholics ar the most brazen in their willingness to flout God's meager request that 10% of what is all His to begin with be left to Him for His church's Kingdom purposes here on Earth.
When asked by His disciples how we would be able to discern the "true Church" from all the false churches predicted to be so prevalent in end times, Christ replied;
"By their works shall ye know them."
Seems pretty clear to me. Whether we look at giving at the collection plate, or how many church pastors treat their flocks, there is a pattern here, and Christ predicted it.
Viewed from another perspective, given how the Catholic dogma bears little or no resemblance to Christ's teachings, it's as though the Catholic "faithful" know in their hearts that this man-made, phony religion has nothing to do with God or his Kingdom purpose here on Earth, and they aren't willing to fund any more aggressively the pedophilic penchants of a largely disgraced and disgraceful clergy.
Makes sense to me.
How in the world did you come up with two dollars? Just wondering.
Interesting....My son and I went to the RCIA open house in our parish. He is 10 years old and wants to become Catholic. He decided this at the time I was considering returning. Anyhow, Fr. mentioned there and in the sermon later in the week, how many people show up to learn about the Catholic church, yet we don’t go door to door. Everyone there was suddenly just curious about the church or knew a family member who was Catholic and had questions. IMO, we don’t need to be going door to door.
. This is despite God’s command that we leave Him with 10% of our gross earnings.
Bible scripture only please...
Matthew 7:16 By their fruits you will recognize them.
He must somehow know about the $3 I put into the collection basket the other week. Of course, I am a SAHM trying to start a business, so have no income of my own to speak of(my husband is not Catholic). Just used the extra money I had in my car, so I coud tithe something. ;)
...I think it is EVEN more important to be able to evangelize without words... by living your life as a witness to the faith, as in all things ACTIONS speak louder than words. The example you set is what others will follow, not merely your words at their door step.I agree with you. Nothing disturbs me more than Eucharistic Ministers handing out Our Eucharistic Lord at Mass. If they are distributing, I will avoid them at all cost. Now if a priest came to my door (dressed as a priest; not a golfer), I'd listen to him evangelize, and be impressed that he took the time to come see me. But a layperson evangelizing would be annoying to me, even though their intentions may well be good. As you said "ACTIONS speak louder than words," and IMO this applies well to lay Catholics. If the lay Catholics who evangelize used that time instead to pray for priests, I think we'd be in better spiritual shape.
Yeah, Catholic charities have done nothing in this world.
Long ago I determined that If I was going to be a Christian then I had to at least give my tenth. I was constantly in dire financial straits in those years and could not in good conscience give 10% to anything that did not pay me back something material. But I started giving 10% of whatever I earned before I spent on anything else,including pressing bills. After only a little while I noticed that I usually had some money in my pocket and could go sit down in a diner with a cup of coffee now and then or go with my wife out to eat. Somehow the bills got less and less onerous. My income did not increase for a long time and was interrupted a couple of times but I lost that constant feeling of desperation and my dread of the telephone. Practically, regularly giving that tithe tended to straighten out my own consciousness of money flow and I have not got “over my head” in probably 25 years and have some savings.
According to this site, it doesnt look like there is any commandment of 10%. More of a tradition that started with Abraham.
Also there was more than one tithe in the Old Testament. There was a tithe to be saved for the Feast Days and a third tithe to be given every third year for the poor and widows. So actually there was 30% at times coming out of your pocket.
Not sure why the master of all mankind, creator of the universe, etc...needs my money.
Oh, good grief. Tell us some line of propaganda we haven't heard before.
Analogy, oft made, rarely understood: I was a chaplain in a Pediatrics ward. For one 7 week period we lost something on the order of two kids a week.
This was because this was Massachusetts General Hospital. It is a great hospital. We had patients others couldn't help, wouldn't even try to help, so they referred them to us. We couldn't fix 'em all. Death rate, by itself, will not tell you whether a hospital is a good one or a bad.
The Catholic Church has thousands who take up poverty, chastity, and obedience, and give their lives to Christ. Does that "charitable giving" fit into the average? In my parish there are many who volunteer some 20 hours a week. Does that fit in? Were those gifts taken into account when the averages were computed? When one looks at what is dropped in the plate, does somebody do the math to include donations to orders, groups, causes, schools, programs? The Catholic Church is larger than the group that meets at St. Swithins in the Swamp every Sunday and holiday.
When asked by His disciples how we would be able to discern the "true Church" from all the false churches predicted to be so prevalent in end times, Christ replied;Actually this is not in response to a question but it part of the Sermon on the mount. It refers to false prophets. The line is (Mt 7:16) By their
"By their works shall ye know them."
He wants everything you have. Everything.
I understand what you are saying. But I think it has to do with obeying God. He doesn’t need the money He needs to know if you will obey. Where your money is so is your heart.
Ask anyone who has done it and you'll be told cold calling is hard work that most of us with our natural reticence would not normally do.
But the door to door evangelizing does have the advantage of being the most effective way of reaching people and a long history. (Acts 20:20)
Wow, Garganuta! I had no idea you were privy to the accounting statistics of every parish of every diocese in the world! You one of those Catholic-bashing 007 types who have infiltrated the halls of the chancery offices? Did they give you one of those tiny cameras so you could take pictures? Do tell...
“Ive never seen Catholics evangelize!”
I’ve seen it all over this forum for months and frankly I don’t think that it’s been very successful.
I just know how I feel when I’m watching a “news” show and they have a “conservative” answering the questions and he or she does a lousy job. I want to scream at the TV. I can imagine brethen getting into the “Why did you tell them that!”
I am not certain about the history of it, but at some point remember 10% was the amount that the church was taxed in England sometime during the Middle Ages. I wish I coud remember the particulars.
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The author should come with me some day. All evangelization involves in
And repat that process every day as you go about your business.
People are always asking me how I am doing, right?
So I tell them — I’m doing great.....I’m attending a Faith Formation 101 for Adults tonight at my church (or cooking for it.) Why don’t you come and listen to the speaker................... In fact the last speaker we had was a young couple on a pilgrimage spreading the word about evangelization.
Evangeliztion is THE STRENGTH OF THE LAITY!
**All evangelization involves is
Repeat that process
So it wasn’t just everyone going off on their own and sort of ‘doing their own thing’ or spreading their personal opinions as gospel.
A "tithe" represented roughly ten percent. Malachai 3:10
haha that's me too, the guy going to the back of the other line dragging his family along, just so I can receive from the priest :) At least our priest is pretty good with his routine so we know which side of the isle to sit on most days so this happens only rarely.Our priest (I thought) had his routine down a certain way, and lo and behold, he switched it around to accommodate a family or two who wanted communion only from him, and so he had the EM switch places (after the EM was finished with their side), and I got "caught." I'm so happy that sometimes we go to a TLM in Chicago (depicted), and there's no worries whatsoever. No EMs, altar girls, bringing up of the gifts, sign of peace, and so on.
There is no New Testament Tithe law mentioned..
2 Cor 9:7 7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
Often a requirement to tithe is placed on the neck of people like a yoke ... We are obliged to care for our families and pay our bills as is honorable.. then to purpose in our hearts what is right and good to give.. It may be 1% or 20% ...God looks at the heart
Tithing is not demanded , it is not a "sin" not to tithe .It might be a sin TO tithe if you are doing ot for selfish purposes like many of the prosperity teachers teach to get back 100 fold..then it is not about heart giving to the servants of Christ but getting MORE for yourself..
Each should give as he purposes in his heart..
LOL! That's a hillbilly sentiment if I ever heard one... Probably not gonna convince anyone that doesn't live down in the holler...
(Of course, they don't understand that he was being neighborly by not pullin' the trigger...) :D
Well I want to throw my hat in the ring.
I am a convert to the Catholic church. This evangelisation through words and action is important. It cannot be one or the other. A convert must have a good understanding of the teachings of the Catholic church. A convert must live their life in such a way as to honour God.
There were people who addressed both ends of this for me. The mind was Scott Hahn and his book, Road to Rome. I also borrowed a copy of the catechism and spoke with the local parish priest. This helped me understand what the church actually taught, and not the misconceptions which had accrued over the years.
The second one is living a life in harmony with Christ. I personally can attest to the Catholics in my life who have inspired me in this fashion. I have great respect for them.
Personally, in my own life, I find it much easier to evangelise with words. But I am working on the conduct aspect.
Would you like someone to arrange for a visitation?
You got your three stages of shot gun courtesy: (1) There's your holding the shotgun. (2)There's your pointing the shot gun (a) in the general direction of the caller; (b) at his face. (3)There's your pullin' the trigger.
Catholics think evangelizing is persuading Protestants to become Catholic.
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