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To: Alex Murphy
You try again. I said "something like this." Clearly there was more than one commode in the Vatican, some would be marble some wooden. These items were not too uncommon. As for "it is claimed", who has made this claim and upon what historical evidence?

This story is pure myth. The first of a female pope was by Jean de Mailly in the 13th century and he placed the event in 1099. There are no contemporary citations from the 9th or any other century. An amusing story but only ignorance or anti-Catholic bigotry would insist that it is true.

9 posted on 06/21/2010 9:28:23 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

That should have read: “The first mention of a female pope …”


10 posted on 06/21/2010 9:36:18 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
An amusing story but only ignorance or anti-Catholic bigotry would insist that it is true.

Consider the source of the posting. 'Nuff said.

12 posted on 06/21/2010 10:00:21 AM PDT by Malacoda (CO(NH2)2 on OBAMA.)
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To: Petrosius

My grandparents had wooden commodes very similar to the marble item in your picture. Even after they got a bathroom in the house, the “thunderboxes” were kept in the basement for emergencies (such as 30 people in a 1-bath house during deer season).


17 posted on 06/21/2010 11:04:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Beam me somewhere, Mr. Scott. You pick the century and I'll pick the spot!)
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To: Petrosius

The first of a female pope was by Jean de Mailly in the 13th century
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Which Jean de Mailly was that ???

In the 13th century he would have had to be a Lombard or an AnaBaptist..

the Jean de Mailly of the 15th Century (born about 1485) was a Catholic...

as were the next 2 generations...

His great grandson Pierre was a Huguenot..he fled from France into the Netherlands after the St Bartholemew Day Massacre and named his son Caspar (Gaspard) in honor of Admiral Gaspard di Coligny, who was killed in 1572...

Caspar’s son, Pierre, changed the name to Mabille when he came to New Amsterdam...his name is among the 151 family names of the Huguenots who founded New Rochelle, NY in 1685 as Mabille..

By the next generation the name had been changed again to Mabie/Mabee/Mabe/Maby/etc

Yes the d’Mailly family were strong French Protestants...

But not in the 13th Century...


28 posted on 06/21/2010 1:00:59 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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