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To: Miztiki
How many people reading this thread have ever even read the bible? All of it? Every single word? Even the “boring” parts? How many?

I have - more than once.

26 posted on 06/27/2010 5:44:03 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma; chesley

That’s wonderful to hear! I wish everyone would read their bible.

I have to ask though...

And I’m sorry to ask this, but over the years I’ve probed people about this and found out that their understanding of reading “all” of it is a bit different than what I consider to be “all” of it.

Did you both actually read every single word? All of the geneologies? Both censuses (sp)? The minute details of the tabernacle? The requirements for the priests and Levites? The tedious and repetitious details of the various offerings and sacrifices and feasts?

Did you honestly read every single word of the entire bible, without missing even one word? Honest to God?

If so then wow, I’m really impressed. Most people don’t have the time or inclination.


30 posted on 06/27/2010 5:56:08 AM PDT by Miztiki
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To: conservativegramma
I have read the Bible enough times that I have lost count and would suggest this verse to those who believe you can lose your salvation.

1 John 5:13 "I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life."

How can I know I have it if I can lose it and how can I lose it if it's eternal. The apostle Paul also states that "what God has begun, He will finish." God began the work of salvation in me and He will complete it. Receiving salvation is not dependent on my works; neither can keeping it be by my works.

The new man created by God in righeousness and holiness at the new birth cannot sin, it is of God. The old man who is corrupt is the one who sins. The new man will eventually overcome the old man in Christ. "Greater is He that is within me, than he that is in the world." It is God who saved us, and it's God who keeps us.

I once believed one could lose his salvation until through study of God's Word and the Holy Spirit set me free from such fear. "God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of love and a sound mind." I am completely secure in Christ.

98 posted on 06/27/2010 4:33:24 PM PDT by evangmlw
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