Posted on 07/03/2010 9:24:47 AM PDT by SmithL
Thanks for your response! :)
If I said "Muslims are liars" that would not be making it personal. But if I said "You are a liar" that would be making it personal.
That said, the word "lie" is inflammatory and should be avoided. "Error" "wrong" "false" "misleading" "misrepresentation" etc. are not inflammatory.
They sure do make a lot of excuses for clergy sexual misconduct when it is their own, don’t they. LOL! Just don’t let it be a Priest. Only Priests have molested children, donchaknow! You clearly showed the true colors here. Thanks.
In the Presbyterian Church how binding are the positions this group takes?Sorry, I don't know much about Presbyterians.
No problem, I assumed because the thread is about the Presbyterian Church meeting you might know. I'm a Baptist. We have association meetings, but ultimately decisions are made at the local church.
I know the Presbyterians are similar to the Baptists in that the final authority is Scripture. So if the liberal elements want to promote homosexual marriage it would be pretty interesting to see how they can twist Scripture to do that.
PCUSA is not MY church.. but to claim that adultery between 2 consenting adults is equivalent to sodomizing a child shows a lack of discernment...
LOL, LOL I understand enough to see through lies and deception . So to the Catholic church celibacy does not restrict a priest from viewing porn and masturbating nightly or sodomizing a little boy or having sex with a married woman in the parish.. or a whore on the streets?
The secular definition of 'celibacy' is often confused today with 'chastity', which means "abstaining from unlawful or immoral sexual activity" (Oxford English Dictionary).
Well then this explains why the popes have mistresses in the past and bastard kids..
I think if they made this clear to young men ( that they can have immoral sex ) your "vocations might pick up"
One of the things I've learned about the RCC is they have never defined something that can't be interpreted differently when the need arises.
It Aint Just Catholic Priests
Two things:
1. It's Dave Armstrong.
2. More importantly, there is no reference anywhere, anyplace which backs up your claim.
Difficulty in reading comprehension?
Prone to hyperbole?
Just plain telling an untrue story?
I dunno, but fact is certainly absent.
“One of the things I’ve learned about the RCC is they have never defined something that can’t be interpreted differently when the need arises.”
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”
Here is a good analogy:
Judge Noah S. “Soggy” Sweat, Jr. (b. October 2, 1922; d. February 23, 1996, Alcorn County, Mississippi) was a judge, law professor, and state representative notable for his 1952 speech on the floor of the Mississippi state legislature concerning whiskey, which is considered a classic example of political doublespeak. The “Whiskey Speech” was delivered when lawmakers were debating legalizing liquor. Liquor was illegal in Mississippi but the state collected what was called a “black market” tax on it totaling millions of dollars.
Sweat, who was elected to the House in 1947 served one term and delivered the speech during his last year in office. He was also the founder of the Mississippi Judicial College of the University of Mississippi Law Center.
The speech:
“My friends,
“I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey.
“If when you say whiskey you mean the devil’s brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.
“But;
“If when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman’s step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life’s great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.
“This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise.”
The only true colors being displayed by RC are Monet pastels. "It could be green, but on the other hand I think it's blue. The Authorities on color colors say emphatically that it's Azure. Although many after the color conference conferred and decreed that turquoise would be the better choice of color language. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Everyone knows that outside the Official Color Namers, there is no choice in color names. We have the right to retain or remit color descriptions. That's what's important to know..."
Rome have always believed there is a difference for priests between celibacy and chastity.
1. It's Dave Armstrong.
2. More importantly, there is no reference anywhere, anyplace which backs up your claim.
Yep. Same old unsupported fiction which denies what our own lying eyes are telling us.
LOLOL.
Rome never met an equivocation it didn't like. Must be pretty convenient to redefine vocabulary and determine definitions at will.
They simply cannot continue down this road with no markings. The wheels are beginning to shimmy off the Pope Mobile. And once again, it would be funny if it weren't so sad. There are going to be a lot of "faithful" who are going to have to come to terms with truth. Maranatha!
Amen. You have a real flair for metaphors. 8~)
The issue is the definition for celibacy is not sex..no sexual thoughts, no porn , no masturbation.. but the RC defines it just no marriage so little boys and street walkers and other mens wives are open game
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