[caww]

Right again...furthermore it is Christ who lives His life thru us...we are no longer our own. Either He paid the sin price entire or He did not. Christ's last words..”It is finished”...He did and that settles all arguments to the contrary. Additionally the Bible as we have it is very clear on what we need to know and He intended we should have.

I have found it interesting in cult studies etc. that one of the common ideas from those who have entered and came out of them is the individuals, who were Christians and fell for the lies, wanted “more” than that which Christ and scripture offered. They wanted signs and experiences of a supernatural kind because our society today values this far more than “faith” and “belief”.

[fish hawk]

You are so right. “Works” is Satan's ace in the hole. It makes us “feel” good and boosts our ego but it also makes us not need God. If you can do it yourself and work your way into Heaven, why do you need God? This simple fact is ignored by Catholics, Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses.

[Not gonna take it anymore]

“”It is finished”...”

What is finished?