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Thomas S. Monson, current "prophet" and president of the LDS church.

1 posted on 07/21/2010 8:57:25 AM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: T Minus Four

Once someone is deceased, their eternal destiny has been sealed. You can do anything you want on their “behalf”, but it’s just a waste of time designed to make those left behind feel like they have some power they do not.


2 posted on 07/21/2010 9:02:00 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: T Minus Four

Question?......Once these departed people are baptized by surrogates are they then on the official membership roles?


3 posted on 07/21/2010 9:02:14 AM PDT by caww
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Gotta post and run. Back soon.


4 posted on 07/21/2010 9:02:22 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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And just where are these Millions of ordinances are performed in the temples each year in behalf of our deceased loved ones found in the BoM.
7 posted on 07/21/2010 9:17:49 AM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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"Millions of ordinances are performed in the temples each year in behalf of our deceased loved ones.

Sorry Tom; but the BIBLE states otherwise:

And as it is appointed to men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Hebrews 9:27

9 posted on 07/21/2010 10:14:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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beaks

Get a load of the beaks!

10 posted on 07/21/2010 10:16:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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It is changing the lives of more and more people every year and is spreading far and wide over the earth as our missionary force seeks out those who are looking for the truths which are found in the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Note what he DIDN'T say: RESTORED!!!

11 posted on 07/21/2010 10:16:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: T Minus Four

the words of President Joseph F. Smith as he spoke of temple service and of the spirit world beyond mortality. Said he, ‘Through our efforts in their behalf their chains of bondage will fall from them, and the darkness surrounding them will clear away, that light may shine upon them and they shall hear in the spirit world of the work that has been done for them by their [people] here, and will rejoice with you in your performance of these duties’ (Joseph F. Smith, in Conference Report, Oct. 1916, 6).
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Good grief

What blasphemy !!!


22 posted on 07/21/2010 11:01:00 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Thanks for posting these words from a Prophet of the Lord. They are indeed true.

As far as the rest of the attack posts from the anti-Mormon attack squad regulars go, I invite everyone to read all of them and then do some research on your own from more than one side of the “issues”. Don’t forget to check out the vast multitude of others threads just bursting at the seams with anti-Mormon propaganda. You’ll find all sorts of copy/paste fun as well as tons of off the cuff /sarcasm “loving comments” /sarcasm off.

Is what all these Mormon attack squad people parrot day in and and day out on these boards true? Don’t take their word for it. Find out for yourself. Put forth some effort. You do want the truth right? Prove it.

Read both sides. Talk to both sides. Not just mine. Not just theirs. Make up your own mind.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. The vast majority of the issues brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ I have found but here’s more.

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/


23 posted on 07/21/2010 11:10:14 AM PDT by Paragon Defender
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The words of Jesus to Joey Smith and his legal counsel, Personage & Son: Did you read this letter I sent to MY Bride ?

Personage: Signed in RED INK ? That will never stand up in court HAHA How stupid.

Jesus: That’s not ink. That’s My Blood.

Personage: OOOOOOOOO Yucky. Keep that away from my son.

Jesus: Your son doesnt say much.

Personage: He never has had anything to say.

Jesus: Why do you keep rubbing your hands on your tail ?

Personage: You said that red stuff was BLOOD. Who signs a legal letter in blood ?

Jesus: I do.

Personage: Well you’re one sick abominable beast. I dont use blood for anything.

Jesus: What do you use instead ?

Personage: Water. Good old clean water. I drink it and i wash in it. We wash all that blood off people who die with it still clinging to them. Own all the body washing franchises.

Jesus: There’s power in My Blood. (Romans 5:9, Hebrews 13:20)

Personage: Your Blood is yucky.

Jesus: Unless people drink My Blood and eat My Flesh, they will not have Eternal Life and they wont belong to Me. They are not Mine and members of My church, My Bride. (John 6:54-56, 1 Corinthians 11:25)

Personage: I never heard anything so pewky. Cannibals.

Jesus: And unless people are washed in My Blood they dont belong to Me. (Hebrews 9:14, Revelation 1:5)

Personages: Now youre really talkin crazy talk. Are you gettin all this Joey ?

Joey: Yeah he sure is dumb. Weird fella.

Personage: Oh by the way, Jesus, this is Joey Smith.

Jesus: Yes, I know who he is.

Joey: Wadya mean ? I dont know you. I’ve never met ya before in my life. I know everyone in these here parts.

Jesus: I know you havent. But I know all about you.

Personage: Now, now. Ah let’s keep it friendly.

Jesus: Want some water to wash your hands ? How about you Joey ?

Personage: No Joey can wash himself.

Joey: Yeah I can wash myself.

Jesus: Unless I wash you, you wont belong to me (John 13:8)

Joey: Say, man, what happened to your hand ?

Personage: Oh he was in a war or something.

Jesus: Yes, I was in a war againt the powers of darkness for men’s souls. I won.

Joey: HAHA Boy I’d hate to see the other guy if you won.

Jesus: I crushed his head.

Joey: WOW You da man.

Jesus: Yes.

Joey: This son of Personage’s sweated in a garden once. He’s been in a wheelchair ever since. Won a Purple Heart.

Jesus: Yes there’s no law against stolen honor.

Joey: What ?

Jesus: Yes, I see.

Joey: Did you use any big weapons ?

Jesus: Only a Cfross.

Joey: You cant kill many guys with one of those.

Jesus: You would be surprized what can be done with a Cross.

Joey: Why, what did you do with yours ?

Jesus: I vanquished all My enemies.

Joey: Gee who were those guys ?

Personage: OK we gotta go now Joey. See ya later, Jesus. I mean AH yeah..

Joey: Gee man watcha shaking for ? Watcha hurry ? (James 2:19)

Personage: I just rembered something.

Joey: Gosh, i was havin a good time. That guy seemed like a swell fella. And he’s a war hero. Didya see his feet ? I was agonna ask him about that.

Personage: Oh yes he was a brave fellow. But not our kind

Joey: Hey maybe he won a Purple Heart like your son did. Did you see his head wound ?

Joey: Yeah yeah..

Joey: And when turned around. his back..

Personage: Come on, Joey.

Joey: Gosh he was interesting. I could have listened to him a bit more.

Personage: Here’s my son. hear him.....


39 posted on 07/21/2010 12:23:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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