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I Don’t Need your Catechism! (Catholic Caucus)
Catholic Exchange ^ | July 22, 2010 | Marlon De La Torre

Posted on 07/22/2010 5:57:02 AM PDT by NYer

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To: netmilsmom

If you are certain that his is what God calls you to....that is good.

Money can ALWAYS be donated as led by the Spirit too. We often donated money to specific ministries within and/or outside of the parish.

Some people who live in rural areas have no real choice. Due to distance, there is only ONE parish to attend.


21 posted on 07/22/2010 7:15:56 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NYer

Well, the Catechism is certainly in my classroom.


22 posted on 07/22/2010 7:18:06 AM PDT by Shark24
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To: Lorica

So there is a man that I’ve been kind of dating for a year now. He’s a fallen away Catholic. We have had our ups & downs but despite that, I have always been inexplicably drawn to him. I have been praying hard every day that he finds his way back to the Church; I care for him & can’t bear the thought of him spending eternity in Hell. I don’t know what else to do. I tread lightly with him about this because I’m afraid of alienating him totally if I’m too forward. He has the potential to be a very good person I think but has really lost his way & I blame his ignorance of the faith for that. Can you all whisper a quick prayer for him, too? Thanks


23 posted on 07/22/2010 7:20:41 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: ArrogantBustard

You’re not on the Seaman Anoreth ping list, so you’ve missed the details of her multicultural experiences in the Western Pacific. “Your economy sucks. Would you like some Thomas Sowell books? My mom will buy me new ones.”


24 posted on 07/22/2010 7:25:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I hate other cultures. Everyone is rude and they never wash or use deodorant."~Anoreth)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Consider him added to my prayer list. I’ll pray for you too, that you would receive from the Holy Spirit the wisdom to have just the right words when it is just the right time. God bless you.


25 posted on 07/22/2010 7:27:24 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: SumProVita

>>Some people who live in rural areas have no real choice. Due to distance, there is only ONE parish to attend.<<

Very true. But being stuck is different from making that choice.

>>If you are certain that his is what God calls you to....that is good.<<

Let me tell you about a neighbor of mine who thought that God was calling her to stick it out. She is the most spiritual person I know. We were at the liberal parish together. She taught “faith formation”, getting in as much of the actual Catechism as they would allow. She tried to start leading the Rosary before Mass and watched the entire staff of the church walk out on her constantly. (returning at the start of mass). The Pastor of that lib parish begged her to find out how to get vocations and when she came to the Pastor at our (very traditional) parish, he told her to change the “faith formation” back to teaching the Catechism, stress confession, start benediction and PRAY (we have a constant group of seminarians, always around 9 or 10). Taking that information back to the Pastor, he got visibly angry and dismissed her. He then cut the Rosary and would not speak to her again. That was the last straw for her. She is now at our traditional parish.

The Devil is in that parish. The only change that has come has been since many of us left and began praying for them. If they are cemented to the “Social Justice” angle, they will only bring the good Catholics down. Getting out is better for your soul.


26 posted on 07/22/2010 7:32:16 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

You are right. This is an excellent, orthodox resource and they have a lot available in Spanish. (Many Hispanics are being lured away from the Church out of ignorance.)


27 posted on 07/22/2010 7:33:08 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Lorica

Thank you so very, very, much!!


28 posted on 07/22/2010 7:33:08 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue

Get a Green Scapular and place it under his mattress, pray to St. Monica for his conversion. Stay with what you are doing and don’t push him. Your prayers and actions are more powerful than your words.

That worked with my husband.


29 posted on 07/22/2010 7:35:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: netmilsmom

I understand and I was speaking in general. I think that often, good opportunities are lost because people see the situation as too difficult. This is also why it is important to have a good spiritual director. Correct discernment is essential. ;-)


30 posted on 07/22/2010 7:36:15 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Tax-chick
Heh ...

Our economy sucks right here in America.

A lot of folks could benefit from reading Thomas Sowell books ...

31 posted on 07/22/2010 7:37:38 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I think nobody should be allowed to vote without reading at least five Thomas Sowell books.


32 posted on 07/22/2010 7:38:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I hate other cultures. Everyone is rude and they never wash or use deodorant."~Anoreth)
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To: SumProVita

The Spanish parish in our area uses them too!
That is the only other parish I would consider going to.
If I can follow the NO in Latin and Polish, I can follow it in Spanish. And they have a liturgy free of innovation!


33 posted on 07/22/2010 7:41:07 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: SumProVita

Amen!


34 posted on 07/22/2010 7:41:49 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: surroundedbyblue; Lorica
So there is a man that I’ve been kind of dating for a year now. He’s a fallen away Catholic. We have had our ups & downs but despite that, I have always been inexplicably drawn to him. I have been praying hard every day that he finds his way back to the Church; I care for him & can’t bear the thought of him spending eternity in Hell.

It was because of similar feelings that I eventually married my husband. I loved him and truly believed that my faith was strong enough for us both. If you want to gain insight into someone's upbringing, meet the parents. I only wish someone had given me these words of advice when I was dating my husband. The family was not religious and they considered my sincere faith to be quaint and naive. The marriage did not last.

35 posted on 07/22/2010 8:00:06 AM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: netmilsmom
Did the DRE recoil from you, vomit and smoke?

On the contrary, she popped her head into my class on week 3, and asked for "volunteers to perform a liturgical dance". My jaw dropped! I believe you already know how that story played out. If not, I'll be happy to repost it.

36 posted on 07/22/2010 8:04:28 AM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: surroundedbyblue; netmilsmom
The one curriculum that I do have (the Who Am I thing) also builds on the same subject year after year for three years.

Is that the Image of God series from Ignatius Press? That is what I use for the Pre-School / Kindergarten program. Mom, does Catholic Company have a similar Pre-K program? I need to find a new one for this year.

37 posted on 07/22/2010 8:11:04 AM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: All; NYer; narses

Check my profile page. I’ve put the links for apologetics, and the Beginning Catholic series as well as the Imitation of Christ series on it.

Now I feel the nudge to put a Catechism that NYer posted on there too.

Did we ever get the complete Baltimore Catechism put online here? narses started it at one time, but I’m unsure about the extent of it.


38 posted on 07/22/2010 8:13:12 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Yes that is the one I am using.


39 posted on 07/22/2010 8:16:33 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: NYer

I am sorry about your marriage.

His family lives in Atlanta (we are in Pittsburgh. He’s a surgiacl resident & I met him at work) so I haven’t met his parents BUT they immigrated here (legally) in 1980 from Nicaragua due to the civil war there. They apparently devoutly Catholic & his mother went to HS here at some convent. It’s funny because his mom & dad sound very faithful (as do his Hispanic aunts) but he & his 3 siblings have fallen away. He’s the youngest of 4 & tells me that none of his siblings are practicing Catholics. It breaks my heart to here this. He said the Mass is a “waste of his time” because he gets more out of watching an hour of TV & that he only goes to Mass on Christmas & Easter out of respect for his mother. Ugh.

I will stay the course & pray for him. Thanks everyone for your advice & words of encouragement & prayers.


40 posted on 07/22/2010 8:23:26 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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