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Palin’s people: The rise of Rick Warren and the mega-church Bible Belt.
The New Statesman ^ | July 26, 2010 | Rob Blackhurst

Posted on 07/25/2010 11:49:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ansel12

“I would like to see her statement of that about the extreme beliefs, in 2006 she was still communicating with her past Assembly of God Pastor, asking for religious advice.”

Is the Assembly of God Church “extreme” in your opinion?


41 posted on 07/26/2010 8:59:12 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

Read the posts a little more carefully.


42 posted on 07/26/2010 9:24:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Lee N. Field

“I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church”

Up to this point I am in total agreement with the Nicene Creed. When it comes to defining the church, I part ways with traditional Christianity.


43 posted on 07/26/2010 9:40:58 PM PDT by ladyL
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To: ladyL
Up to this point I am in total agreement with the Nicene Creed. When it comes to defining the church, I part ways with traditional Christianity.

In what way?

44 posted on 07/28/2010 2:55:02 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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To: Lee N. Field
I believe that the “church” actually originated at the foot of Mt. Sinai when Moses came down off the mountain with the two tablets containing the Ten Commandments. That group of called out ones, the Quahal became the Ekkelsia in the New Testament. They were the Israelites at the foot of Mr. Sinai. The Ten Commandments was the marriage Covenant which they accepted. Approximately 500 years later those people broke into 2 Kingdoms, the House of Judah and the House of Israel. This is historic fact. The house of Israel was later, through judgement dispersed in 721BC into the world, divorced by Yahweh.

The house of Judah stayed intact known as the Jews today. They are still intact and in Covenant today. Yahshua said He came only for the House of Israel (Matthew 15:24). The last 2000 years Yahshua has been gathering the lost sheep of the house of Israel. We are still the Quhal or ekkelsia.

Jer 31:31 says that the New Covenant will be made with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Doesn't say anything about a “church.” So if you are a New Covenant believer you must be either from the house of Judah or the house of Israel. This is the BIBLICAL PLAN OF THE FATHER, NOT THE DOCTRINES AND TRADITIONS OF MEN.

Get your Bible out cause everything I said has Scripture to back it up. Study to show thy self approved, a workman rightly dividing the Word of God.

45 posted on 07/29/2010 12:19:48 AM PDT by ladyL
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To: piasa

Excellent point!

I don’t want to be put in a box and labeled. Resistance to that nonsense is not futile!

Thank you!


46 posted on 07/29/2010 12:26:11 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: ladyL
By blood descent?

This sounds a bit like British Israelism, without the "British".

47 posted on 07/29/2010 10:50:36 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isaiah 27:1)
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To: Lee N. Field

Galatians 3:29 If you be in Christ Jesus you are of Abraham’s seed. Seed is sperm in the Greek.


48 posted on 08/03/2010 4:58:49 AM PDT by ladyL
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To: ladyL
Then it is racial? Having saving faith in Christ is proof that one has Israelitish DNA? And anybody who doesn't is without hope?

Don't be surprised that folks regard this as heretical.

"do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham."

49 posted on 08/03/2010 7:25:05 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("What is your only comfort, in life and death?" "That I an not my own, but belong, body and soul...")
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To: Lee N. Field
One thing I have learned not to do is argue with Scripture.

Mat 15:24 “I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”

Luke 1:32 “The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, AND HE WILL REIGN OVER THE HOUSE OF JACOB FOREVER...”

Hebrews 2:16 “For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants.”

I could give many more scriptures to show you Yahweh's Biblical plan starting from Genesis thru Revelation. I could show you how Abraham's seed was scattered into all the nations. Look at Gen. 35:9-12 where Yahweh told Jacob he was going to make his descendants into A NATION AND A COMPANY OF NATIONS.

I'm going to stop now. You've thrown your stone at me but I will bless you and ask the Father to take the scales off your eyes to see His truths He is revealing to those today who have ears to hear and eyes to see. The Roman religion is dead the Hebrew Faith is alive and prospering, but it is a remnant faith that started with Yahshua and will end with Yahshua. There will be twelve gates to enter into the new Jerusalem and over each gate the name of a tribe. There is no church gate...which gate will you walk through. I am an Israelite of the seed of Abraham. Abraham's children are red and yellow, black and white. We come from all nations but we are Israelites returning back to the Kingdom through the Law of the New Covenant written on our hearts. Jer.31:31

50 posted on 08/03/2010 11:25:01 AM PDT by ladyL
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